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The apocryphal Chinese curse comes to mind: "May you live in interesting times."

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The apocryphal Chinese curse comes to mind: "May you live in interesting times."

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Or literally: Better to be a dog in a peaceful time, than to be a human in a chaotic (warring) period.


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Today, most of the senior management at the State Department either resigned or were forced out. These are people who have worked with multiple past presidents. They took with them a huge amount of institutional memory, and there's really no place in the private sector to find someone with the kind of talents needed to fill those jobs.

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As far as I understand the situation there's nothing unusual about that and it happens with every new administration. The media is once again trying to make things look worse than they are, making it look as if they all resigned in protest over Trump or some such.

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"Of the officers whose resignations were accepted, some will continue in the Foreign Service in other positions and others will retire by choice or because they have exceeded the time limits of their grade in service," said a statement by acting State Department spokesman Mark Toner.


Among those whom Reuters has confirmed are leaving, are Gregory Starr, Assistant Secretary for State for Diplomatic Security and Michele Bond, Assistant Secretary for Consular Affairs.


Thomas Countryman, the acting undersecretary for arms control and international security, was asked to leave by Friday, U.S. officials said, as was Patrick Kennedy, under secretary of state for management.



"This is not unusual, it's not a mass protest or a show of indignation," said one senior U.S. official.


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As far as I understand the situation there's nothing unusual about that and it happens with every new administration. The media is once again trying to make things look worse than they are, making it look as if they all resigned in protest over Trump or some such.

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A couple of today's departures were by people who have worked with several presidents - people who incoming presidents, no matter their political views, knew were valuable and shouldn't be purged. Patrick Kennedy had been with the State Department for decades, rose to high ranks under Bush, and was practically begged by Clinton and Kerry not to retire during the Obama administration.

It's not common business to purge State Department officials because their experience is so valuable. Presidents can do it, but choose not to because it's silly. I'm sure this will be celebrated as "draining the swamp" when they are replaced by sycophants with no experience.

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As far as I understand the situation there's nothing unusual about that and it happens with every new administration. The media is once again trying to make things look worse than they are, making it look as if they all resigned in protest over Trump or some such.




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A friend of mine who works in ROK, was talking about the exact same thing earlier this afternoon. Not unusual for changing people in state dept. as those are appointed positions not career positions.
Same thing occurs in Canada when the government changes.

Hopefully diplomatic relations with various nations don't sour over these changes.
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Well, 'America First' has been a point. Please sign the petition for the netherlands to be second: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...y-requested-it

This is obviously the result on a funny video, but there is something behind it as well. Dutch-US trade relations are actually important to us, and in the longer term good trade relations with the US might actually allow us to leave the EU like the UK did in some time.

Also, we produce the best cheese in the world, and with open borders you'll never have to eat that plastic hamburger cheddar again
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Obama was terrible......
You wait and see just how terrible Obama was once you're through with Trump.

Watching the goings on at the white house over the past 48hrs is akin to watching this






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So what would it look like if the Clintons won at this time. I guess we can only imagine...gives me chills. So many people regurgitate this crap on tv. They used to swing from his nuts and now bust his balls. And up until recently the Clintons and Trumps were quite aligned politically. Not that it means they didn't flip flop for whatever worked at the time. All we can do is see how it plays out. Oh and I'm sure Hillary loves it when Donald calls here a nasty woman. These two families go years back and we know what kind of freaks they are. I think they both played their parts very well last year.
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So what would it look like if the Clintons won at this time. I guess we can only imagine...gives me chills. So many people regurgitate this crap on tv. They used to swing from his nuts and now bust his balls. And up until recently the Clintons and Trumps were quite aligned politically. Not that it means they didn't flip flop for whatever worked at the time. All we can do is see how it plays out. Oh and I'm sure Hillary loves it when Donald calls here a nasty woman. These two families go years back and we know what kind of freaks they are. I think they both played their parts very well last year.
Maybe so... neither pick was a good one. I am watching this play out from an outside perspective and it's a little scary to watch.
I am also watching this from a DPRK/ROK perspective as well, and that's were things get quite interesting/potentially confrontational. I'd say a majority of people in ROK are scared of Trumps bellicose rhetoric and amazed at how ill suited he seems for such a high position ( a position shared by a majority of South Koreans).

It doesn't take much to start an armed conflict in this region. All it takes is a little posturing in the wrong way...
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Trump's bellicose rhetoric matches how a lot of Americans feel about our representatives, that's why he was able to get as many votes as he did.
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Trump was elected to drain the swamp and rebuild our strength.

I am happy with his progress thus far, Trump is calling out the cheaters and making them talk backwards.

As for a Nuclear North Korea and Iran, I think we will have to deal with that no matter what, and we should be ready to counter a nuclear attack with anti missile countermeasures as well as possibly a biological response or one of many other unconventional options that will sterilize large land masses without poisoning the earth for thousands of years.

Assured mutual destruction keeps the peace with all but brainwashed zealots.

Everyday Trump will make us stronger.

Trump knows we face danger and he will rebuild our strength so that no one will dare to show aggression against us. Trump knows that others are working on antimatter that could initiate a neutron type weapon, Trump is working for us, not against us as Obama did, Trump will empower us to be the winners if we must face contest.

For 8 years we have gone backwards against ourselves, that time is over, now we go forward and rebuild strength.

We DO NOT negotiate with terrorist and we DO NOT bow to foreign kings, I stand with Trump because Trump stands with us, not against us.

Obama is gone, that time is over. The next red line if there is one will be real.
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While he is trying to do so, the mainstream media are doing their best to destroy his effectiveness, unfortunately.
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The election is over and people have lives to live, I don't see the media doing much.

Just look at what Barry got away with, you remember all the " phony scandals " my god he should have been impeached a dozen times over, I don't think he even had an annual budget once as required by law his entire first term.

Between elections much of the public has about a 48 hour attention span, Trump will forge ahead.
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RCB: I hope so, being a bull headed businessman, he probably will succeed in improving our lot.

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Trump was elected to drain the swamp and rebuild our strength.

I am happy with his progress thus far, Trump is calling out the cheaters and making them talk backwards.

As for a Nuclear North Korea and Iran, I think we will have to deal with that no matter what, and we should be ready to counter a nuclear attack with anti missile countermeasures as well as possibly a biological response or one of many other unconventional options that will sterilize large land masses without poisoning the earth for thousands of years.

Assured mutual destruction keeps the peace with all but brainwashed zealots.

Everyday Trump will make us stronger.

Trump knows we face danger and he will rebuild our strength so that no one will dare to show aggression against us. Trump knows that others are working on antimatter that could initiate a neutron type weapon, Trump is working for us, not against us as Obama did, Trump will empower us to be the winners if we must face contest.

For 8 years we have gone backwards against ourselves, that time is over, now we go forward and rebuild strength.

We DO NOT negotiate with terrorist and we DO NOT bow to foreign kings, I stand with Trump because Trump stands with us, not against us.

Obama is gone, that time is over. The next red line if there is one will be real.

Well, you will still have to deal with Saudi Arabia which is both a foreign Kingdom and a supporter of Jihadism ( biggest single exporter of terrorism) world wide. As long as the US still buys oil from opec you'll still be under Saudi's thumb and supporting ISIS. ISIS is indirectly funded by KSA.
Trump will have to deal with this. Iran is NOT Saudi Arabia, and definitely would rather keep to themselves. Personally having dealt with Iranian Govt. Officials while working overseas, I can say they're a great deal more like us than Saudis are. They want to be progressive and they are curious about the world. Hassan Rouhani is a moderate who seeks an alliance against ISIS, something they fear as well. Trump can and should co-operate with Iran as it is in best interest to.

As for Trump calling an election investigation is ludicrous as nobody knows who voted for whom. It's anonymous.
The election is over and he won. What is he going to gain by investigating? Seriously...

I get that many Americans feel disenfranchised by their Government.
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Maybe he wants to stop voter fraud in the future. He said he wants to "drain the swamp." I think he wants to attempt to remove all dishonesty from government. Although he's not completely truthful himself, he's still trying to remove it.
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