Cool Knife.

Here's some of my knives. Most are Victorinox and/or swiss army knive style :yh:

lazyazzz12: If you can't find the knife your looking for or they won't sell to you for some reason. Go to here, they are based in Jacksonville and sell everything from Auto knives to swords. 888 Knives R Us - Automatic Knives, Butterfly Knives, Swords, Watches, Outdoor and Camping Gear Plus So Much More!

As far as what has been said about being legal, it just really depends on where you live. There is NO issue in carrying auto-knives or packing a handgun in FL once you get the permit, which by the way is practically a given if you don't have a criminal record. Once you get it, you can then carry in many other states too. Without the permit you can still legally purchase a hand gun or auto knife, but you then can't directly carry it on your person. Example you can have a fully loaded gun in your car & no permit as long as it's not directly on you, put it in the glove box etc and you'll be just fine.

You can't legally purchase an auto-knife from out of State and have it shipped to you, that's a Federal law; once you have a permit though you could then do so ONLY if they don't ship it via USPS, it must ship out UPS, FedEx; this is not always followed, but it's the only way to do it safely. Hand Guns can *only* purchased in your Home State, even if you are visiting another State and have a permit from your home state; again it's a Federal law.

If however you see a hand gun out of state that you must have, you can still get it, it just takes a little more work. You pay for it and have that dealer ship it to another dealer in your home state and then you receive it from your home state dealer, that is all perfectly legal then.

I have many auto knives such as MicroTech, Benchmade, ProTech, Piranha's, etc; not to mention my extensive gun collection

They say never to bring a knife to a gun fight and that probably is good advice, but it's a good back-up defense weapon. Have you every noticed cops carry an auto knife along with their gun too? Myself, I am always armed with a gun & auto-knife, you never know these days who will cross your path.

Have fun & stay safe.

My dad was in the military and one of those knives that pop out with the push of a button (you get apermit with the military to own em) but one of his friends has her's stolen, and he gave it to her. She could have gotten a replacement, damn him >.<

have a navy seals diving knife. (for when i go diving) and it can cut through 10 bottles all lined up. i should try more bottles(filled with water)

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That sounds like a very good way to make your knife incredibly dull...
@Jayrob. I love that black auto benchmade you have. I saw one at a gunshow a couple years ago. I was really tempted to buy it, but they have quite a price tag on em.

What is the make & model of the Navy Seals knife? Thanks.

actually i awas wrong i am australian and the knife is a Royal Australian Navy Clearance Divers Knife my bad, the brand is um it sais ♠RAN♠

But I also have a few nice Auto's... one of my favorite ones ... Microtech QD Scarab...

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I have a few autos, but they are mere toys compared to that knife... :bowdown:

"The QD (Quick Deployment) SCARAB is a high quality tactical out-the-front knife, based on our original Ultratech design. Built to withstand the extreme, the SCARAB excels in high intensity covert operations. The SCARAB is designed for a broad spectrum of utility and close quarter combat applications for use by qualified law enforcement, military, and government agency operatives. SCARAB is fabricated to the highest possible standards to assure reliability and safety with its use. Featuring a one handed, open and close, dual action out-the-front (OTF) design, it offers single, double, or tanto edge blade options. The SCARAB is produced with a large easy-to-grip handle that contains non-slip grip inlays on both sides. Additional features include: an ambidextrous pocket clip, a glass break device incorporated into the back of the handle, Tamper-resistant screws, a lanyard attachment, and a large actuating button to accommodate gloves.

QD SCARAB
AUTOMATIC OPENING - AUTOMATIC CLOSING - FRONT OPENER
ACTION: DOUBLE ACTION - AUTO FIRE/RETRACT
LENGTH OPEN: 8.370” to 8.643” (INCL. GLASS BREAK)
BLADE MATERIAL: D-2 RC 58-59
BLADE SIZE: .125” T X .850” W X 3.424” L
BLADE STYLES: SINGLE EDGE, DOUBLE EDGE, TANTO EDGE
HANDLE MATERIAL: 6061-T6 ALUMINUM MIL-SPEC HARD COAT ANODIZE
HANDLE SIZE: .485”T X 1.335” W (INCL. BUTTON) X 4.946” (INCL. GLASS BREAK)
OPTIONS: SINGLE EDGE, DOUBLE EDGE, OR TANTO BLADES. BLACK OR GREEN MOLY COAT, TAN GREEN OR URBAN CAMOUFLAGE SATIN, STONEWASH, AND BLADE SERRATIONS.
POCKET CLIP MATERIAL: 301 STAINLESS STEEL FULL HARD
TRIGGER: 303 STAINLESS STEEL
WEIGHT: 3.8 OZ"

Well, besides the fact that this puppy costs about as much as a HQ, DIY 12X lazor... how did you manage to obtain it? I thought that autos were illegal in the U.S. - in any event, when I was still living in the U.S., I "obtained" mine from France...

EDIT: I like the Combat Troodon... in red. Silly name, but awesome knife
Btw, can you explain me the difference between:
DUAL ACTION AUTO FIRE AND RETRACT
DOUBLE ACTION - AUTO FIRE/RETRACT
CONTINUOUS PROPULSION COMPRESSION SPRING (Single action)
With my auto, I have a "slide-button" and applying pressure on it fires the blade. pulling the button back retracts the blade. Also at extreme speeds.

EDIT2: Say, how much do you think this Halo would set me back... ? ;p
http://www.marfionecustomknives.com/forsale.html

EDIT3: Here's an look into the mechanics of a Microtech OTF (Ultratech):

I'm sure 'double action' and 'dual action' fire/retract is the same thing...

Continuous compression spring is reffering to a coil spring on the blade. As opposed to the 'kick spring' type. (for side opening auto's)

I'll bet that custom Halo would be well over $500... Could be much higher though. When you get into the custom builds, it's like art...

About auto's. There are companies that will ship them, just like getting a high powered laser. They are not illegal to have in a collection as far as I know. But they are illegal to carry on your person in CA. (blade over 2")

One of those really stupid laws that goes back to the 50's.

But there are so many knives that you can easily open with one hand just as easily and quickly as an auto. (spring)

ur guys knives are really,lol,totally scared me,love the dragon most,we can buy so many cheap staff from China,uh?

i just collect coins....:tired:

rpaloalto said:

This is the one I want from benchmade
The blade is automatically ejected out the front
3310 Details | Benchmade
kinda pricy at $450

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Maybe this has been said in this post before, but I would not buy this knife.

Benchmade usually makes really high quality knives. But unfortunently, the Benchmade Infidel is a joke.

To be honest, I think the knife itself look really cool, and has a very intimidating look to it. But you can't judge a knife by the way it looks, you have to factor in performance, otherwise, you'd have a really expensive paperweight.

For $400 you deserve better!!!

Its to my understanding that if you where to open the knife, it wont even penetrate a single piece of paper. I'll let these videos speak for themselves.


WARNING: STRONG LANGUAGE

YouTube - Double Action Out of the Front Knife Paper Test Challenge - Benchmade Fails Infidel Overpriced JUNK

YouTube - Benchmade Infidel OTF Double Action Out of the Front Falsely Advertised for Military & is Junk

To be honest, those videos are pretty bias against Benchmade, but they do still make a very compelling argument.


And yes, they are illegal in some states. In California you can't buy one legally without being a police officer or in the military.

electron said:

lazyazzz12: If you can't find the knife your looking for or they won't sell to you for some reason. Go to here, they are based in Jacksonville and sell everything from Auto knives to swords. 888 Knives R Us - Automatic Knives, Butterfly Knives, Swords, Watches, Outdoor and Camping Gear Plus So Much More!

As far as what has been said about being legal, it just really depends on where you live. There is NO issue in carrying auto-knives or packing a handgun in FL once you get the permit, which by the way is practically a given if you don't have a criminal record. Once you get it, you can then carry in many other states too. Without the permit you can still legally purchase a hand gun or auto knife, but you then can't directly carry it on your person. Example you can have a fully loaded gun in your car & no permit as long as it's not directly on you, put it in the glove box etc and you'll be just fine.

You can't legally purchase an auto-knife from out of State and have it shipped to you, that's a Federal law; once you have a permit though you could then do so ONLY if they don't ship it via USPS, it must ship out UPS, FedEx; this is not always followed, but it's the only way to do it safely. Hand Guns can *only* purchased in your Home State, even if you are visiting another State and have a permit from your home state; again it's a Federal law.

If however you see a hand gun out of state that you must have, you can still get it, it just takes a little more work. You pay for it and have that dealer ship it to another dealer in your home state and then you receive it from your home state dealer, that is all perfectly legal then.

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The bolded is the single worst piece of legal advice I have ever read on an internet forum. Having a gun in the glovebox absolutely counts as carrying it concealed, just like if it's under your seat or in your pocket. I mean I get that there can be misunderstandings, and I hate to have to ask this, but are you actively trying to get people arrested?

As far as reciprocity, that has its limits as well. For instance, in NC, there is no such thing as legal concealed carry of a knife over a certain size, whether you have a permit or not (knives under a certain size don't count as weapons for the concealed carry laws).

All firearm ownership transfers between states do require going through an FFL, very good point about that.

Bottom line is, everyone needs to know the laws in their own state. Consult a lawyer if you're not comfortable, but it's up to you to find out the laws for yourself, and don't just take your advice from the internet.

jayrob said:

I'm sure 'double action' and 'dual action' fire/retract is the same thing...

Continuous compression spring is reffering to a coil spring on the blade. As opposed to the 'kick spring' type. (for side opening auto's)

I'll bet that custom Halo would be well over $500... Could be much higher though. When you get into the custom builds, it's like art...

About my auto collection. There are companies that will ship them to you, just like getting a high powered laser. They are not illegal to have in a collection. But they are illegal to care on your person in CA. (blade over 2")

One of those really stupid laws that goes back to the 50's.

But there are so many knives that you can easily open with one hand just as easily and quickly as an auto. (spring)

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In most cases they are the same, but I have a "dual action" knife that is totally different: it's a side-out auto with a hidden automatic mechanism. It has a thumb stud that can easily be used just like any other manual knife, and anyone who has never seen it before would never know it's an auto. So it's sold as a "dual action", for being both manual and automatic. But I agree, for any typical out-the-front, no difference there in terminology as far as "dual" vs. "double" action.

And I agree, manual knives and the assisted-open stuff like the Kershaws make it so there's no practical difference with most autos, little to no speed difference.

And state-by-state laws can vary hugely with kinves. In NC, There i no law against possession of automatic knives of any kind. You still have the interstate commerce problems thanks to federal law, but there is no law against owning or carrying an auto knife. There are limits on concealed carry of knives based on blade-size alone (4" is the limit, I believe), but it doesn't mention autos at all.

Antimony Trioxide said:

Its to my understanding that if you where to open the knife, it wont even penetrate a single piece of paper ... And yes, they are illegal in some states...

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It's my understanding that an OTF auto will not "lock" until fully fired / extended, for security reasons. I don't think there's a knife designed to forcefully penetrate a target (be it paper or a combatant) during the "firing" phase... .

I'm not suggesting the Infidel is good or bad, but that it's not surprising that even a piece of paper will prevent an OTF knife from locking into operting position. Many of these knives' springs are at rest untill you trigger the knife*...

But someone with more experience should be able to answer that more accurately as he has enough OTF samples...

As for State laws, can anyone from Florida tell me about local knife laws? I will be in Miami this summer and if I came across a Microtech, I'd probably like to take it home with me Otherwise I will concentrate on EU / German manufacturers as I can imagine the problems with buying an OTF overseas... Speaking of which, can anyone recommend a German / EU brand to me please**?

*P.S. Sorry if the "proof" is in those Youtube videos, but I do not have access to them (@office...)

**EDIT: Anyone know "Böker"? Here's a nice auto (but not OTF) that is perhaps more in my price class than the Microtech / Benchmades OTFs... Thx
**EDIT2: Here's another one...

**EDIT3: Guys, which blade type do you like better (& why)? The first one's a "drop point", the 2nd a "recurve" and third's a "Tanto" (serrated).

I think I will take one of the three as my first *real* knife and let's see how it goes from there... (read: to Microtech or not to Microtech...)

pullbangdead said:

In most cases they are the same, but I have a "dual action" knife that is totally different: it's a side-out auto with a hidden automatic mechanism. It has a thumb stud that can easily be used just like any other manual knife, and anyone who has never seen it before would never know it's an auto. So it's sold as a "dual action", for being both manual and automatic.

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If I understod you correctly, here's an example:

Toolshop - Böker Plus Action² 01BO060
"Double Action means two opening options in one knife: Classic one-hand liner-lock or automatic opening. The push button is hidden behind the handle inlay. The Action2 has integrated safety to avoid accidental opening. The red marker tells you whether the mechanism is locked or unlocked."

A lot of the German made auto's are lever lock style... (see Hubertus)

You can find them with various scale material like deer stag and mother of pearl...

Check out this site: (you can browse by brand name)
http://www.pvknife.com/webcat/