Best/Reliable car HID's?

I recently got a Dodge Neon 2005 SXT and wanted to put some 8000k HID's in it. If I were to buy them online what are some good brand names, as well as names I want to stay away from? What's some of the best websites out there?

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8000K? Yuk, isn't that like bright blue? I'm pretty sure that's the worst for driving, as your peripheral eyesight is almost exclusively in yellow-red.

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ossumguywill said:

8000K? Yuk, isn't that like bright blue? I'm pretty sure that's the worst for driving, as your peripheral eyesight is almost exclusively in yellow-red.

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On a camera it looks blue, but my friend has 6000K HID's and they're just barely tinted blue, they're pretty white. 8000K wouldn't be too much blue-er.

I just need to find out good brand names. GooeyGus told me he got his on ebay and they're working very well. I have my eye on one, it doesn't appear to be a scam..


On amazon I was looking at these or these as the low beams:

http://www.amazon.com/KENSUN-Xenon-...TF8&coliid=I3TN2X1CGYVUVF&colid=1MFL52J2ZE3YH
or
http://www.amazon.com/JLM-Premium-C...TF8&coliid=I2BGEVML0FHXWZ&colid=1MFL52J2ZE3YH

and these or these as the fog lights:

http://www.amazon.com/Kensun-Xenon-..._2?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1283066240&sr=8-2
or
http://www.amazon.com/JLM-Elite-Con...TF8&coliid=I2BJWS3LJL76UU&colid=1MFL52J2ZE3YH

edit: I've now narrowed it down to Kensun over JLM. Kensun has nothing but amazing 5 star reviews.

I hope you plan on installing housings designed for the HID bulbs. It is illegal in a lot of places to installed HID bulbs in housing not designed for them. Plus it really sucks for oncoming traffic. I have a 4x4 truck and still get blinded by people that put HID bulbs in housings not designed for them.

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mikeeey said:

On a camera it looks blue, but my friend has 6000K HID's and they're just barely tinted blue, they're pretty white. 8000K wouldn't be too much blue-er.

I just need to find out good brand names. GooeyGus told me he got his on ebay and they're working very well. I have my eye on one, it doesn't appear to be a scam..


On amazon I was looking at these or these as the low beams:

Amazon.com: KENSUN HID Xenon Conversion Kit 9007 (Hb5) L/H halogen 8000k (Thunder blue): Automotive
or
Amazon.com: JLM Premium* HID Conversion Kit 9007 8000K Hi/Lo Dual Xenon (Iceberg Blue): Automotive

and these or these as the fog lights:

Amazon.com: Kensun HID Xenon Conversion KIT H10 (9145) 8000k (Thunder Blue): Automotive
or
Amazon.com: JLM Elite*HID Conversion Kit H10/9145 8000K (Iceberg Blue): Automotive

edit: I've now narrowed it down to Kensun over JLM. Kensun has nothing but amazing 5 star reviews.

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The difference of a few thousand K is VERY noticeable IMO. My neutral and cool white LEDs look worlds apart when compared side by side. 8000k is sort of like the angry blue/purple color you get from a cheap, overdriven LED light. But I guess it's all up to personal preference... And ditto for Dr. Evil, be sure to get HID housings or it's a major PITA for oncoming drivers.

If an HID kit cost less than $99, chances say that they are fake. Most of those ebay deals are just halogens that simulate HID colors with a blue tint on the bulb. No HID bulb should have a blue tint on it. If you get pulled over for have headlights that are too blue, you're in trouble if the officer holds a white piece of paper up to your lights, and they turn the paper blue. Only go with trusted, HID brands.

Also, not every HID can be focused like your normal halogens. HID can really be a pain in the arse to other drivers on the road if your headlights cannot be properly aimed because of the reflector used on your car.


Also, 8000K is Wayyyy too blue for road use. Stick below 5500K if you can, they will be more white anyways.

I have 8000k HID's in my 4x4 and their spectacular...they have a blue tinge to them, but primarily very bright white, i replaced my 6000k's with them. I disagree that its "too blue" for road use. Mine look fantastic.

8000k looks nice imo. Just make sure they're focused right so you're not blinding the other drivers.

I have a 2005 legacy gt and I retrofit the Hid projector from a lexus rx 330 and used ballast and bulbs from a lexus also. To have true hid's you should use an oem hid projector. Why, because the spacing is different from a halogen bulb to an hid. The hid bulb has to have the right spacing from its cutoff, if not your going to blind oncoming traffic. It's easier to retrofit if your car already has projector headlights. In my case the rx 330 projector was a direct fit. Do some research on retrofiting oem hid projectors, it's the only way to have true hid's. Its not hard just time consuming. Just my $.02!

My parents got me an HID kit for my birthday, it came with 4300k lights. My dad told me I could go back and trade the bulbs themselves for a different color, so I went and looked at some of them. Strangely, all of their lights were whiter than they should have been. 8000k looked white, even 12000k was white. He ended up showing me "25k" as it was labeled ( the guy even admitted that that couldn't be right ), so I'd say they were probably what 8000k should look like. I'm on my iPod now so I'll post more info later.

Btw the ballasts are nice, and they're slim ballasts.

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Meatball said:

If an HID kit cost less than $99, chances say that they are fake. Most of those ebay deals are just halogens that simulate HID colors with a blue tint on the bulb.

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Nonsense. It's the <$10 kits you need to worry about. Most of the $50 kits are legit.

About the color, I ordered some "30,000k" bulbs from an ebay seller, but they're closer to 10,000k. Beware the color ratings from chinese bulbs. Also, I would stick with 6000k or lower, but just to help avoid police attention. Compared with the typical 3000k halogen bulbs on the road, it'll still look kinda blue (especially at night)

ossumguywill said:

your peripheral eyesight is almost exclusively in yellow-red.

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You must be thinking of something else. Wikipedia: "Peripheral vision is weaker in humans, compared with other animals, especially at distinguishing color and shape. This is because receptor cells on the retina are greater at the center and lowest at the edges (see visual system for an explanation of these concepts). In addition, there are two types of receptor cells, rod cells and cone cells; rod cells are unable to distinguish color and are predominant at the periphery, while cone cells are concentrated mostly in the center of the retina, the fovea."

And on rod cells: "Experiments by George Wald and others showed that rods are most sensitive to wavelengths of light around 498 nm (green-blue), and less sensitive to wavelengths longer than about 640 nm (red). This fact is responsible for the Purkinje effect, in which blue colors appear more intense relative to reds at twilight, when rods take over as the cells responsible for vision."

Odd.... I seem to remember a discussion at CPF a while ago about sodium lamps and they had some very convincing sources saying the orange-red lines generated by sodium lamps (or the orange-red spectrum of incans) were almost essential to the peripheral vision needed for driving. Perhaps I had it wrong.