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For another weekly dose of woo woo UFO stories

Look at this story:

ONE FANCINATING VIEW! UFO SPOTTED IN SPACE!!!

Get your tin hats of denial on, these things are out there. Don't worry, you can always say it's a secret space program vehicle that decided to have its picture taken.

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Re: For another weekly dose of woo woo UFO stories

I was too, this is the "other" section, I won't post so much, be kind
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Divergence Calculator: http://www.pseudonomen.com/lasers/ca...alculator.html - Measure your lasers beamwidth at 1 foot & then at a further distance to calculate the divergence.

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Re: For another weekly dose of woo woo UFO stories

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 Originally Posted by Laser Project Get your tin hats of denial on, these things are out there. Don't worry, you can always say it's a secret space program vehicle that decided to have its picture taken.
Okay see its when you say things like this that people get annoyed. If you just put up the article and asked people's opinion, then we could get some nice healthy debate going. But instead you post things like this, and then make it so if anyone doesn't believe its a UFO then they're just in denial. Theres no proof that it is or isn't a UFO, therefore all opinions are valid.

It could be a lense flare, or data corruption, or a burst of radiation hitting the camera sensor.

Or it could very well be an alien space craft. We have no proof either way.

But I would like to point out, that if there are alien vessels monitoring our planet, and they are trying to do it covertly, and given that they would be more advanced than us, then they would be able to hide from us and not be detected by a simple camera. Heck, we ourselves posses the technology to clock things from view (admittedly only in prototypes).
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Re: For another weekly dose of woo woo UFO stories

Interesting find Project, thanks for sharing!

Unfortunately, I don't think it's an actual UFO. If this makes any sense the first thought that came to mind was how "blurry" it looked when compared to the rest of the photo. Even the earth looked clearer! I would say it is indeed just a flare or something of that sort

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Re: For another weekly dose of woo woo UFO stories

We can debate on whether it's a UFO or not, can we call that flying?

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Re: For another weekly dose of woo woo UFO stories

Never mind the fact it's on a blog, but when an article ends with "lol", I wouldn't even have it printed on my toilet paper. There's so many other explanations out there of what it could be, the fact you immediately assume other lifeforms, I'd be questioning who's actually in denial.

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 A more likely explanation than a craft piloted by beings from another planet observing human astronauts is lensflare. Light could easily have bounced off the ISS and refracted onto the camera.

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 Originally Posted by Laser Project Get your tin hats of denial on, these things are out there.

Don't get all aloof. You didn't even read it.

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 A more likely explanation than a craft piloted by beings from another planet observing human astronauts is lensflare.
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11-11-2014, 01:16 PM #9
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The UFO phenomena is one of the most fascinating things in the world, well, universe to me. I am, to put it lightly, extremely interested in the subject and have accepted that some UFO's are indeed alien visitors, that this has been going on for thousands of years. Anyone who seriously studies this subject comes to the same conclusion, either that, or they are simply denying it for their own reasons.

A somewhat annoying GIF, I know, but cool. I put it as my avatar for about three minutes, took it down, it's too flashy.

From what I've been able to get a take on, these types of aliens are biological machines created by another civilization. I know how this comes across if you haven't studied this stuff, along with all of the bs you have to sort through if you do. It comes off as complete crazy bunk, yet I think it's true.
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Divergence Calculator: http://www.pseudonomen.com/lasers/ca...alculator.html - Measure your lasers beamwidth at 1 foot & then at a further distance to calculate the divergence.

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I'll just leave this here.

UFO abduction caught on security cam in North Dakota - Allentown Paranormal | Examiner.com
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 Originally Posted by Laser Project Anyone who seriously studies this subject comes to the same conclusion, either that, or they are simply denying it for their own reasons.
It's the consistent comments like this why you annoy LPF'rs.

Enlighten us, what have you studied. Post everything you have studied here and we will point out all the holes for you. It would be a much more interesting world if we could prove extraterrestrial life visits Earth, but looking at things objectively, I don't find any good reasons to believe.
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I apologize for my annoying attitude which comes through on this subject. I am annoyed a bit myself when I learn that things I feel are so important and interesting are cast off as pure non-sense, I'm still annoyed by that attitude...

See this:

I don't believe any of these are faked.
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Divergence Calculator: http://www.pseudonomen.com/lasers/ca...alculator.html - Measure your lasers beamwidth at 1 foot & then at a further distance to calculate the divergence.

Online calculator to determine spot intensity at different mRad's & powers @ distances: http://tinyurl.com/divergence-calculator

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How to build a laser beam expander to reduce divergence: http://tinyurl.com/BeamExpander

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 Originally Posted by Laser Project All of that said, is there anyone else here who is willing to honestly discuss this subject without it becoming a challenge to my character or trying to tell me how wrong I am?
Some of us are doing this.

Also you challenge everyone's character when you post things like this.
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I'm willing to discuss it. But you post your statements like they are facts which leads to you saying we are "in denial" when we post things that contradict your views.

So as I've said before, I completely believe that there is life elsewhere in our galaxy/universe. What I don't believe is that these "UFO sightings" are real, mainly because any race with the technological capability to build ships that can travel between stars would be able to easily cloak their ships from our comparatively more primitive means of detection.

I mean come on, we as human being already have functional prototypes for active camo, and we've only gone to our own moon.

I'm not saying that aliens haven't visited Earth, they may very well be, but my point is, we can't tell because we wouldn't be able to detect them if they didn't want us to.
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I highly doubt there is any "intelligent" life out there, there are aliens, well maybe, and sci-fi presents them by humanizing them , legs, eyes, one nose, and ugly hands, way to limit your own perception.

but humans just might be the most intelligent species, there is.
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 Originally Posted by TheDukeAnumber1 Enlighten us, what have you studied. Post everything you have studied here and we will point out all the holes for you. It would be a much more interesting world if we could prove extraterrestrial life visits Earth, but looking at things objectively, I don't find any good reasons to believe.
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 Originally Posted by Laser Project All of that said, is there anyone else here who is willing to honestly discuss this subject without it becoming a challenge to my character or trying to tell me how wrong I am?
> You make a full post asking if people want to actually discuss this with you, but yet again provide absolutely NONE of your OWN findings.

This is why people get pissed off, stop asking if people want to discuss it, and just post your OWN research. If people find it interesting enough to discuss, they will. Not a hard concept to understand, but 4 threads (or more) later and you still don't seem to get it.

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