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Hislordship · Jul 15, 2013

People who say.... ''we built those things'' are idiots

If we today can't lift a piece of stone 1500tons... with the most advanged technology we have... then how dafuq did ancient men do it? ^^

TheDukeAnumber1 · Jul 15, 2013

Hislordship said:
If we today can't lift a piece of stone 1500tons... with the most advanged technology we have...

We can...

http://allyouneedislists.com/technology/buildings-machinery/top-10-largest-cranes-in-the-world/

Hislordship · Jul 15, 2013

TheDukeAnumber1 said:
We can...

http://allyouneedislists.com/technology/buildings-machinery/top-10-largest-cranes-in-the-world/

I stand corrected

But still how can our encestors have done it? if they according to mainstream archeoligists only had primitive tools?...

TheDukeAnumber1 · Jul 15, 2013

Primitive tools are probably all they needed. Even those cranes in the link, if the motors and lights are taken away they are just a combination of a few "simple machines" on a grand scale. Who really knows what happened back then but with some ramps, simple machines, mechanics, and at times using gravity to their advantage I do believe it's very possible.

People were smart back then as they are now today. We don't give them enough credit sometimes.

Hislordship · Jul 15, 2013

Sometimes the massive 1500ton stones were moved over a 100miles... there has been absolutely no evidence of anything they could have used to do this..
it is like they just transported them or something star trek style ^^

next to that in the ancient city of luxor and many other places around the world we find carvings which are so pricily made that it is impossible to do by hand..
even today we would need the most advanced machinary to duplicate what they made

I find it hard to believe that they did those things by hand or with primitive tools

TheDukeAnumber1 · Jul 15, 2013

Big heavy stones can be moved like this...

The carving tools like chisels and picks that craftsman use today were used the same way back then. We know the statue of David was done by Michelangelo, and with my first look at that I can't imagine that a person could have done that by hand but there it is, man made, by hand, gifted people can do some pretty impressive things.

Hislordship · Jul 15, 2013

heavy stones cannot be moved that way in the desert.. the sand is to soft

Also the carvings are to perfect to be done by hand.. there really is no differnce in dephs.

Using such primitive tools would also have left clear toolmarks no matter how proffesional it is done and this is also abcent

Leodahsan · Jul 15, 2013

agreed with Hislordship. Don't forget that pyramids are solid, so you need more carved, heavy stones to fill the insides too. And there are many pyramids...

Hislordship · Jul 15, 2013

and to use that technique of moving stones they first need to get it on the logs in the first place.. how di they do that?

A rule of thumb is you need about 20 people to move a 1 ton stone
so how about a 1500ton stone? it is not possible to get the amount of people needed to lift that stone because that many people all at once cannot lift the stone

the stone is simply to small for everyone to be able to touch it all at once.

TheDukeAnumber1 · Jul 15, 2013

With several large timbers the weight of the stone gets spread out quite a lot, also they may have used matting or layed down perpendicular timbers to help it roll, definitely still possible in the sand.

A pointed piece of metal or a well shaped stone can be used to the same effect as hand tools made today no matter how "primitive" and doesn't necessarily mean tool marks would be left behind, even if there were they might have been sanded or eroded away.

and to use that technique of moving stones they first need to get it on the logs in the first place.. how di they do that?

People traded

Hislordship · Jul 15, 2013

you can always tell the difference between a hand made or machine made carving... no denying that
What we find in luxor is deffinitly not hand made it is just to perfect to be hand made

also to get that stone on the logs they needed 1500x20 ppl.... i higly doubt it is possible to get that many people to pull a stone on the logs
there is also absolutely no evidence that this technique was ever used
it is just something people assumed they did because it seemed most logical
But after carefull examination it is truly impossible to do without the help of modern machinary

I am not saying humans did not built those structures... because i believe we did i am just saying we had help because we did not posses the knowledge nor the techniques we needed to do it on our own

TheDukeAnumber1 · Jul 15, 2013

I got ya, and I'm not trying to deny the possible existance of extraterrestrial life, but I've been surprised plenty of times on how creative people can be in solving great feats of engineering that I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility even in their time.

Also, you don't need 1500x20 ppl, force can be generated by using a pully system and letting gravity do the work, it's also been show that it's possible blocks could have been cast in place like concrete.

Pi R Squared · Jul 15, 2013

Perhaps they were built by a race of giants. A pre Egyptian civilization that died out thousands of years ago. Giants could work with larger stones than normal humans could.

Lazerbeak · Jul 15, 2013

Thank you for the info Duke :beer: If we assume that it is technically possible and barring the existence of Aliens or even Future Humans. Transportation of giant stones, precise cutting of Granite and the logistics alone are quite a feat for structures created 2,000 to 10,000+ years ago. It would be fascinating to know what kind of tech and culture existed so long ago that was capable of such feats :thinking:

~ LB

Hislordship · Jul 15, 2013

Pi R Squared said:
Perhaps they were built by a race of giants. A pre Egyptian civilization that died out thousands of years ago. Giants could work with larger stones than normal humans could.

Giant human skelletons have been found wordwide... yet kept hidden from public view in most cases...
Call me crazy but there is plenty of evidence for it if you just took the efford to look for it

Hislordship · Jul 15, 2013

Lazerbeak said:
Thank you for the info Duke :beer: If we assume that it is technically possible and barring the existence of Aliens or even Future Humans. Transportation of giant stones, precise cutting of Granite and the logistics alone are quite a feat for structures created 2,000 to 10,000+ years ago. It would be fascinating to know what kind of tech and culture existed so long ago that was capable of such feats :thinking:

~ LB

to cut granite and stones as hard as that one will need someething harder then the stone... today we would use daimond or other harder stones which are things our encestors did not have

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