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Old 09-02-2014, 09:56 PM #49
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I'm the one that talked to Jmillerdoc.

I'll post the whole story later (maybe not today), but long story short DL sold me an underspec laser (averaging <35mW) and told me all the 589nm Spartans they have in stock are underspec, therefore I couldn't get a replacement.
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I'm the one that talked to Jmillerdoc.

I'll post the whole story later (maybe not today), but long story short DL sold me an underspec laser (averaging <35mW) and told me all the 589nm Spartans they have in stock are underspec, therefore I couldn't get a replacement.
That's disappointing. One can perhaps surmise that when they changed the listing for the yellow Spartan from 30mW to 50mW, they were in fact the same product, just a very overspec batch. It may be that the really overspec ones have gone and they just need to restore the 30mW listing. To say they can't help you because all their current ones are underspec is a none service. You may consider a chargeback or claim with your credit card company.

Unfortunately it looks like I have indeed missed the boat.. the leather jacket I bought instead of a Spartan several months back does add significantly more to my street cred than a yellow laser though :P
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long story short DL sold me an underspec laser (averaging <35mW) and told me all the 589nm Spartans they have in stock are underspec, therefore I couldn't get a replacement.
I'm buying one from DL now. I asked the guy about that, and he said

"Rumors had been sent to me too. I copy my reply to the another customer for you
“Thank you for contact us. Spartan 589nm laser pointer guaranteed to be average around 50mW.
The power stability is roughly 30% to 50%. The laser generate heat quickly and over heat operation will make it unstable.
It is not as stable as green lasers. normally suggest to operate continuously less than 1 min.”

The measurement standard of 589nm 50mW laser had never been changed."

So we'll see. I'm not gonna bust balls over 10mW. I just want something better than my CR2-style pen that slowly warms up from 0mW to 0.3mW.
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Here's the post with the full story: Underspec Dragon Lasers Spartan 589nm "50mW" - buyer beware!


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That's disappointing. One can perhaps surmise that when they changed the listing for the yellow Spartan from 30mW to 50mW, they were in fact the same product, just a very overspec batch. It may be that the really overspec ones have gone and they just need to restore the 30mW listing. To say they can't help you because all their current ones are underspec is a none service. You may consider a chargeback or claim with your credit card company.

Unfortunately it looks like I have indeed missed the boat.. the leather jacket I bought instead of a Spartan several months back does add significantly more to my street cred than a yellow laser though :P
They did offer a full refund but I don't trust them enough to send it back to China with no guarantees. Wouldn't be fair to do a credit card claim after they offered a refund, since I don't know for sure they wouldn't honor it.

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I'm buying one from DL now. I asked the guy about that, and he said

"Rumors had been sent to me too. I copy my reply to the another customer for you
“Thank you for contact us. Spartan 589nm laser pointer guaranteed to be average around 50mW.
The power stability is roughly 30% to 50%. The laser generate heat quickly and over heat operation will make it unstable.
It is not as stable as green lasers. normally suggest to operate continuously less than 1 min.”

The measurement standard of 589nm 50mW laser had never been changed."

So we'll see. I'm not gonna bust balls over 10mW. I just want something better than my CR2-style pen that slowly warms up from 0mW to 0.3mW.
I hope you're more lucky than me.
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low 445nm: C6 from Survival Lasers (1351mW pk|1289mW avg|1100mW rtd)
high 450nm: NewWish (12.6mW pk|5mW rtd) | Dominator by Blord (3010mW pk|2779mW avg during 5min)
462nm: 501B by Atomic (1507mW avg)
473nm: BWB-10-OEM labby by CNI (10mW rtd)
~462-476nm "Tunablue" by Atomic (1.5W pk)
low 520nm: MXDL pen by DTR (31.6mW pk|28.8mW avg)
high 520nm: Laserlands (8mW avg)
532nm: NewWish (28.6mW pk|26.8mW avg|10mW rtd) | Dapper (30.3mW pk) | Classic (120.0mW pk|103.1mW avg|100mW rtd) | "The Green Box" by Atomic (176.7mW pk|140.0mW avg)
589nm: Spartan from Dragon Lasers (58.4mW pk|37mW avg|50mW rtd)
632.8nm: HeNe pointer by Atomic (0.68mW rtd)
635nm: NewWish (4.6mW avg|5mW rtd)
638nm: Classic from Lazerer (409.3mW pk|389.4mW avg|415mW rtd)
650nm: NewWish (10.6mW pk|5mW rtd) | Dilda (216.3mW avg|200mW rtd)
685nm: laser-in-a-box by Atomic (30.4mW pk|29.3mW avg) | 501B by Atomic (32.4mW avg)
780nm: module (2.7mW avg|5mW rtd)
808nm: Classic modded from a 532nm (162mW avg)
850nm: module (8.8mW avg|7mW rtd)
980nm: NewWish (81mW pk|5mW rtd) | 2nd line around 490nm

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