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Old 03-07-2011, 12:31 AM #1041
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I can do a chemical beadblast... essentially it's the same as beadblasting. Making a matte surface. Same thing with the finish after these cones.

Here is a host that I did the chemical dip to. you can see the "look" best on the lip of the tip of the flashlight.




Coherentlight provided me with an image that better conveys the look after being removed from the chemical dip



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well, i have finally fiqured out why these switches I've been using for these Krytons are such a PIle of CRAP~



#1 is a switch that has had it's internal spring heated up as a result of too much current passing through it. Believe it or not, this was only 1.3A
#2 is what it is supposed to look like. As you can see, the spring is really really small. it's no wonder they die so easily.
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I'm pretty sure those switches will handle plenty of current Ken...

But if that little spring got hot enough to take the temper out of it, then you had a short somewhere...
I agree with Jayrob. I have run these at slightly above 1A for minutes at a time. However, today, I had one spring retaining ring slip up and allow the spring to contact the top of the battery and the side of the barrel. I broke four switches before I figured it out. Although, the fourth was a conscious test of my theory

This was with a microboost driver. I have not tried this with one of jib77's LM1117 based 1.3A drivers. If there was no short, then maybe we have found the limit of these switches

In any event, make sure that the battery contact spring is completely insulated or is held centered mechanically to avoid this short

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well, I really did try to figure out what was going wrong. I know that a direct short will eat these things alive so I made sure that it was a good connection.. My prime suspect was teh spring directly off the driver, and I was unable to find the source.

I just had a thought. How easy would it be to take one of these springs from inside and use a Lab PSU to find out exactly how much these things can take before they start "melting" I've got just the thing and a few of these to spare (for the time being)

Ok test done. I've obviously got a short somewhere because this thing can handle 2.5A for a few minutes before it even gets a little warm. I only have the ability to take this up to 3.15A. Peak of my psu. I did find that at 3A within a few seconds it starts to deform. Not red hot, but certainly hot.

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well, I really did try to figure out what was going wrong. I know that a direct short will eat these things alive so I made sure that it was a good connection.. My prime suspect was teh spring directly off the driver, and I was unable to find the source.

I just had a thought. How easy would it be to take one of these springs from inside and use a Lab PSU to find out exactly how much these things can take before they start "melting" I've got just the thing and a few of these to spare (for the time being)

Ok test done. I've obviously got a short somewhere because this thing can handle 2.5A for a few minutes before it even gets a little warm. I only have the ability to take this up to 3.15A. Peak of my psu. I did find that at 3A within a few seconds it starts to deform. Not red hot, but certainly hot.

Yep... Plus just think of all the P7 cheap flashlights out there that use a similar cheap switch and they run at 2.8 Amps for extended periods of time...

To get that tiny switch spring red hot, you have to short it directly to the battery...
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Ok, so.... here's the scooop and latest update. I've finished testing the new media for the polisher. I am pleased to announce that it successfully gets rid of ALL of the tool marks. Then when moving on to the wallnut shells, it makes much easier to get a mirror polish on the hosts. So the polishing issue has been SOLVED. I'm running this thing pretty much non-stop polishing barrels (I can't do it at night on account of it being LOUD) and have the anodizing bath setup now so we will literally start to see these barrels rolling out within the next few days/weeks. (still have to wait for the spacer from pontiac) If you want your barrel without the spacer (you'll be responsible for making your own like I did) let me know and I'll put yours on the list to ship asap.

I do have a picture of the 3 finish types... untouched, after cones, and after wallnut shells. This has still not yet got the mirror finish and Jayrob having his as polished alone will get his first (I know he can make the spacer needed as well and is I'm sure incredibly anxious to get his hands on these) and before I ship those, I will take a picture of the mirror finish.


in the pic the first third and fifth have been through the cones and wallnut. #2 is untouched, and #3 is just the cones.


Xstatica will notice there are NO machine marks on 1,3, and 5 that go around the diameter. There are a few scuff marks from the hosts bumping into one another inside the polisher, but those will all come out when I touch them up with mothers aluminum polish.

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Looks good! Thanks for the update and high res image. I can't wait to see how the anodizing will turn out.
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Yeah I know, I've been trying to find my calipers, but they are packed away somewhere in my storage. I could send it to you..
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Jayrob, please check these higher resolution pictures and tell me if this is shiny enough for you.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3175365/DSC00079.JPG
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You will notice what looks to be scuff marks, but it's just the flash ruining the image.

I WILL be including a portion of Mothers aluminum Polish so that you can touch this up any time you want.
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I can't wait either!!!

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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3175365/DSC00079.JPG
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Hey guys I wanted to let you know I've come up with a solution to the retaining ring problem. This will make it so that pontiac doesn't need to make up anything and it will allow me to start shipping these things sooner.

purchase a thin plastic 3 ring binder. should cost you $1.00. Take a dime and make a circle in the plastic and cut it out. Once you have the circle, cut another circle in the center that will fit over the spring on the clickie and trim down the circles outside diameter to fit inside the Kryton. Make the circle fit perfectly inside the diameter and it will hold the switch in place.

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Sounds like a plan to me, I am sure everyone can do this!

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Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

I am working with a potential machinist to get these beasts finally made. I've kind of updated the pictures to show how the diode adapter screws into the head. There will be a total of 3 diode adapters for the unit. One for 9mm, one for 5.6mm and one for c-mount. the one in the picture shows the 5.6mm one.

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Hey guys I wanted to let you know I've come up with a solution to the retaining ring problem. This will make it so that pontiac doesn't need to make up anything and it will allow me to start shipping these things sooner.

purchase a thin plastic 3 ring binder. should cost you $1.00. Take a dime and make a circle in the plastic and cut it out. Once you have the circle, cut another circle in the center that will fit over the spring on the clickie and trim down the circles outside diameter to fit inside the Kryton. Make the circle fit perfectly inside the diameter and it will hold the switch in place.

Here is a picture of what I did on the last one I did.

Is this to replace the snap ring that was used in the prev run or is this an added piece to prevent the shorting/switch killing that you were talking about before? If it's to stop the switches from getting killed - I don't think it will help as I has that issue myself and only solved it by insulating the sides of the spring that comes from the driver.
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