Laser pointer discussion. Read/write reviews of laser pointers and laser pointer companies. Learn about all types of laser pointers and lasers





Welcome to Laser Pointer Forums! If you are looking for a laser pointer or want to compare different laser pointer companies, you may want to check out the LPF Laser Pointer Company Database. The link will open in a new window for your convenience.








Green Laser Pointers by Category Blue Laser Pointers by Category Red Laser Pointers by Category
Yellow Laser Pointers by Category Violet Laser Pointers by Category Orange Laser Pointers by Category
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes
Laser Technology Laser Pointer Parts Lasers by Wavelength
Top 10 Laser Pointer Companies Laser Pointer Company Database Visible Beam Laser Pointers


One laser store meets all your needs

























Go Back   Laser Pointer Forums - Discuss Laser Pointers > Lasers > Group Buys



LPF List of Laser Pointer Companies (link opens new window)



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-13-2010, 02:44 PM #881
LazyBeam's Avatar
Class 2 Laser
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 446
Rep Power: 24
LazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant future
LazyBeam LazyBeam is offline
Class 2 Laser
LazyBeam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 446
Rep Power: 24
LazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant future
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

Thanks for the info StatiC, I'll email him!
^^^


__________________
Wicked Lasers - E1 Executive Fusion - 5mW - 532nm
Custom Build - Dual Power AW210 Pen Style Pointer - 40mW/180mW - 405nm (Click for Pics!)
Custom Build - SF-AW210 in $1 AA/14500 Host - 150mW - 405nm (Click for Pics!)
Custom Build - "AA" Pocket Host - 650mW - 445nm (almost complete) (Click for Pics!)

Last edited by LazyBeam; 12-13-2010 at 04:06 PM.
LazyBeam is offline   Reply With Quote







LPF List of Laser Pointer Companies (link opens new window)







Old 12-13-2010, 03:43 PM #882
xStatiCa's Avatar
Class 2 Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: New Port Richey, FL
Posts: 360
Rep Power: 14
xStatiCa is a name known to allxStatiCa is a name known to allxStatiCa is a name known to allxStatiCa is a name known to allxStatiCa is a name known to allxStatiCa is a name known to all
xStatiCa xStatiCa is offline
Class 2 Laser
xStatiCa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: New Port Richey, FL
Posts: 360
Rep Power: 14
xStatiCa is a name known to allxStatiCa is a name known to allxStatiCa is a name known to allxStatiCa is a name known to allxStatiCa is a name known to allxStatiCa is a name known to all
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

LazyBeam, See the link below on how to contact him. He can not monitor this discussion forum easily it seems with his current internet issues.

The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

Last edited by xStatiCa; 12-13-2010 at 09:56 PM.
xStatiCa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2010, 11:28 PM #883
jayrob's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northern CA, U.S. Astrophotography! (Some of my Photos)
Posts: 9,851
Rep Power: 3922
jayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond repute
jayrob jayrob is online now
Class 4 Laser
jayrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northern CA, U.S. Astrophotography! (Some of my Photos)
Posts: 9,851
Rep Power: 3922
jayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

I took a look at a couple of these barrels that Ken sent me...

At first, I found them workable. The head screwed on a little 'rough', but it did screw on. And besides, once it's on, it stays there until you need to replace your diode...

But while I was on the phone with Ken, I put him on speaker and was taking the head on and off one of the barrels explaining to Ken that it goes on rough, but it still goes on by hand...


... and then it got stuck while I was explaining that! I couldn't get it off by hand.

So I'm guessing that there may be just a very small chip getting in between the threads, and that is all it takes to 'bind'. And I would guess that it is an intermittent problem...

This is of course just my opinion.

But I do not think that it is a very big problem. Ken told me that he already had a die ordered to chase the threads.

Hopefully it will fit, because I'm sure these are custom sized threads. But I don't think it needs a die, but just a close inspection, and to clean the threads of any small debris...

In any case, I think it can be worked out. It's not a huge problem...
__________________
Personal lasers:
(just a few - too many to list) RPL 425, Sypder III Krypton, RPL 35 (473), GLP-473, GLP-593.5, HeNe 632.8,
Many DIY 445, red, blu-ray, green, 635, and 450 builds...


Looking for a DIY kit?


Take a look at some of my more popular kits linked in color...

* FS: 405-G-1 Glass Lens Mod for Blu-ray! 31% increase in power vs AixiZ acrylic!

* FS: New! 1000 Lumen XML-2 Maglite Modification With Voltage Monitor! - Parts or Complete Light! Must see!

* FS: Polished Stainless Steel Green Kit! Easy assembly in minutes!

* FS: Large Maglite Monster Kits! Side Button Forward Clicky! Custom Head Option! Gnarly...


Click here for a list of my build kits! Projects and tutorials too!


Last edited by jayrob; 12-14-2010 at 07:19 AM.
jayrob is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2010, 11:36 PM #884
LazyBeam's Avatar
Class 2 Laser
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 446
Rep Power: 24
LazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant future
LazyBeam LazyBeam is offline
Class 2 Laser
LazyBeam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 446
Rep Power: 24
LazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant future
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

If they are "custom threads" wouldn't it be easier to chuck them up in a lathe, set the feedrate, and just chase a few thousandths off the pitch diameter with a sharp single point tool? Plus with a sharp new bit you could turn the chuck by hand power so as being guarunteed not to mess up the shoulder or cross thread it.

Hell, how many barrels are there and what is the thread pitch? I could do these in my basement if the thread pitch isn't too exotic.
__________________
Wicked Lasers - E1 Executive Fusion - 5mW - 532nm
Custom Build - Dual Power AW210 Pen Style Pointer - 40mW/180mW - 405nm (Click for Pics!)
Custom Build - SF-AW210 in $1 AA/14500 Host - 150mW - 405nm (Click for Pics!)
Custom Build - "AA" Pocket Host - 650mW - 445nm (almost complete) (Click for Pics!)
LazyBeam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 01:56 AM #885
Pontiacg5's Avatar
Class 3B Laser
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ottawa, Kansas
Posts: 2,524
Rep Power: 121
Pontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond repute
Pontiacg5 Pontiacg5 is offline
Class 3B Laser
Pontiacg5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ottawa, Kansas
Posts: 2,524
Rep Power: 121
Pontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

Are the barrels Ken sent you the ones he already chased with a tap?

To rethread a single point like that you would have to get the thread repositioned in the lathe exactly as it was originally. It's not practically possible.

A die is not going to fix anything, that is only going to tear the threads up and make the problem worse. I converted the metric thread (M20x1.25) to a standard lead because all of my machines are set to run standard. Therefore a M20x1.25 die should fit, but it's only going to make a mess.

If you think the problem is caused by a chip, then the best solution would be to get rid of the chip. I don't think it's a chip though, because some of the hosts I threaded together in the video were pretty dirty and they still went together just fine. Hitting the burr on the threads with a scotchbright pad might help, but I didn't see that burr causing any problems at all.

I'm warning you now though, chasing aluminum threads like that with a die is only going to make them worse. It will gouge and strip the threads to no end. There's really only two or three entire threads there, not a lot of room for error...
Pontiacg5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 02:32 AM #886
rpaloalto's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Palo Alto, CA
Posts: 1,257
Rep Power: 129
rpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond repute
rpaloalto rpaloalto is offline
Class 3R Laser
rpaloalto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Palo Alto, CA
Posts: 1,257
Rep Power: 129
rpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

This is starting to look really bad for all of us. KEN get in here and talk to us.
Has the die you ordered last month showed up yet???
__________________
Read The Forum Rules
Follow The Forum Rules
Be Kind To Your Fellow LPF Brothers
-----------------------------------------------------
Builds, Hosts and Optics from Flaminpyro,
Ehgemus, RA_pierce, jayrob,
LarryDFW and Me
rpaloalto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 04:23 AM #887
jayrob's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northern CA, U.S. Astrophotography! (Some of my Photos)
Posts: 9,851
Rep Power: 3922
jayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond repute
jayrob jayrob is online now
Class 4 Laser
jayrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northern CA, U.S. Astrophotography! (Some of my Photos)
Posts: 9,851
Rep Power: 3922
jayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond reputejayrob has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pontiacg5 View Post
Are the barrels Ken sent you the ones he already chased with a tap?
I didn't ask, but I would think that he sent me barrels that were not tampered with in any way. Except one was polished, and one was not. I already sent them back today though. So I don't have them to examine any longer.

Once again, I don't think it's a problem. I think maybe Ken's just worried that a couple of people will get a 'sticky' one. But I would guess that if you get one like that, it should be relatively easy to find the little burr or chip and clean it.

The key is, if you feel it binding, then don't force it. Because that's how it can get stuck. Instead, take it off, and clean the threads.
__________________
Personal lasers:
(just a few - too many to list) RPL 425, Sypder III Krypton, RPL 35 (473), GLP-473, GLP-593.5, HeNe 632.8,
Many DIY 445, red, blu-ray, green, 635, and 450 builds...


Looking for a DIY kit?


Take a look at some of my more popular kits linked in color...

* FS: 405-G-1 Glass Lens Mod for Blu-ray! 31% increase in power vs AixiZ acrylic!

* FS: New! 1000 Lumen XML-2 Maglite Modification With Voltage Monitor! - Parts or Complete Light! Must see!

* FS: Polished Stainless Steel Green Kit! Easy assembly in minutes!

* FS: Large Maglite Monster Kits! Side Button Forward Clicky! Custom Head Option! Gnarly...


Click here for a list of my build kits! Projects and tutorials too!

jayrob is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 04:04 PM #888
LazyBeam's Avatar
Class 2 Laser
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 446
Rep Power: 24
LazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant future
LazyBeam LazyBeam is offline
Class 2 Laser
LazyBeam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 446
Rep Power: 24
LazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant futureLazyBeam has a brilliant future
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pontiacg5 View Post
To rethread a single point like that you would have to get the thread repositioned in the lathe exactly as it was originally. It's not practically possible.

Sure it is. I've done it loads of times with threads as small as 20tpi. Remember, I'm talking about a normal lathe here... not CNC. Just place the barrel in the chuck and barely tighten the jaws. Don't secrue the chuck and tighten it just yet - you want the part to be able to rotate a bit. Lock in the appropriate gears/lead to get the proper thread pitch. Bring your single point over to the part and adjust it approximately the pitch diameter. Because the part is not tightly secured in the chuck you can rotate it so you can time the helix/pitch of the threads to the single point bit.

Will it be dead-nuts precise? No. But it will easily be within a few thousandths if not still within a class 3 spec. Probably only takes about 3 minutes to manually align the thread pitch to the leadscrew. And because you're only looking at removing a few thou to help with clearance, you can probably just hand feed the lathe chuck to chase the few threads that are there.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pontiacg5 View Post
I'm warning you now though, chasing aluminum threads like that with a die is only going to make them worse. It will gouge and strip the threads to no end. There's really only two or three entire threads there, not a lot of room for error...
Correct. With aluminum unless the die is very sharp, well oiled, and aligned perfectly you run a serious risk of mucking up the threads. At minimum, if you want to try, look for a 6 flute tool and try to align with a threading jig or lathe tailstock.
__________________
Wicked Lasers - E1 Executive Fusion - 5mW - 532nm
Custom Build - Dual Power AW210 Pen Style Pointer - 40mW/180mW - 405nm (Click for Pics!)
Custom Build - SF-AW210 in $1 AA/14500 Host - 150mW - 405nm (Click for Pics!)
Custom Build - "AA" Pocket Host - 650mW - 445nm (almost complete) (Click for Pics!)

Last edited by LazyBeam; 12-14-2010 at 04:11 PM.
LazyBeam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 10:06 PM #889
Kenom's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 5,629
Rep Power: 304
Kenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to Kenom
Kenom Kenom is offline
Class 4 Laser
Kenom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 5,629
Rep Power: 304
Kenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to Kenom
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

sorry folks, I've been a bit busy with legal matters lately to follow up on this thread and answer any questions regarding the barrels. There are a lot of issues and questions recently in this thread and I will try to address them all.

1. The beasts will still be done. However since pontiac is feeling personally attacked in this ordeal, (not once have I outright blamed anyone for anything) I will have to go with a different machine shop. Given the hostility, I would do so anyway. I just plain don't do conflict.

2. if you want to swap out your beast order for some grooves, email me and we'll work something out.

3. I usually get my taxes around the middle of january and will have the money then to finalize all the things outstanding.

4 its been my experience that chasing threads with the taps I have, have not resulted in damaged threads. those of you from the second run know that I had to chase every single thread for the lenses and they were perfectly fine when I was done. the tap I ordered to chase the threads in the barrel section of the grooves fit smoothly all the way to the bottom and did NOT remove any material. The threads there are fine. I did not order a die to chase the heads as I believed at the time that it was in the barrel. I have since ordered the die to chase the threads on the head and it will arrive on the 17th of this month. I will TEST this on one barrel and see what it does. from there I will progress as I see will provide me with the best results. if that means tapping each one or hitting them with a die, I will do so. If I have to leave them as-is and just anodize them as-is, then that is what will be done but you can rest assured that you will get a functional product just as you ordered.

Now, Pontiac: I am not attacking you. I have only made one remark about the changes made to the fins and that is the only thing. You indicated you followed the designs that I sent you and I believe that.. If the changes made were in accordance with the designs sent to you, then it is my fault and not yours. I have not specified that you made any errors either with the threads. I have just informed everyone that I have run into issues. I sent jayrob a polished and unpolished barrel so that he could see exactly what I am seeing and that is that there is NOT a issue that is so big that it cannot be resolved. the barrels are fine, and whatever issues I have with them will be resolved. so stop attacking me and trying to get everyone in a fit. Look back at everything and put it back into the perspective that it should be and you'll see that there has been no accusations made.
Kenom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 10:25 PM #890
daguin's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sunny Southern California
Posts: 16,636
Rep Power: 1432
daguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond repute
daguin daguin is offline
Super Moderator
daguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sunny Southern California
Posts: 16,636
Rep Power: 1432
daguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

Breathe easy!

I now have barrels in my possession from both Kenom AND Pontiac. They are ALL fine.

I do not know what happened to the barrel that Kenom had a problem with. Perhaps it is indeed simply a loose "chip" that has gotten lodged in the threading. Making sure that everything is clean, should eliminate this potential. However, ALL of mine work as intended

The threading in the head is "secure." It does require "gentle" effort to screw it together. IMNHO that is a GOOD thing. Having a head piece come loose while focusing the laser, or other time when not intended, would be a BIG problem. It is not so tight that it is a problem. Remember, I am a professor. I talk for a living. I do NOT have the grip strength of a machinist (or anyone that works for a living for that matter). If I can do it easily, virtually anyone can.

The threading on the head piece and the tail piece are DIFFERENT. The pieces are NOT (and should not be) interchangeable. I cannot imagine why anyone would want them to be interchangeable anyway.

We just need to get Kenom working on the anodizing of them.

Peace,
dave
__________________
How To Get Along In and Be Accepted in the Forum

If you got some value out of reading this forum, how about donating $2 to keep it going?
Click Here to donate

Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none.
-William Shakespeare
daguin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 10:45 PM #891
rpaloalto's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Palo Alto, CA
Posts: 1,257
Rep Power: 129
rpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond repute
rpaloalto rpaloalto is offline
Class 3R Laser
rpaloalto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Palo Alto, CA
Posts: 1,257
Rep Power: 129
rpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond reputerpaloalto has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

Thanks for the update kenom

Dave I'm glad you got your krytons and that they all work. I'm tempted to just ask ken to send me my kryton, as is. Sure I would get it now, but I have been waiting 6 months for a blue anodized one
__________________
Read The Forum Rules
Follow The Forum Rules
Be Kind To Your Fellow LPF Brothers
-----------------------------------------------------
Builds, Hosts and Optics from Flaminpyro,
Ehgemus, RA_pierce, jayrob,
LarryDFW and Me
rpaloalto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 10:53 PM #892
daguin's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sunny Southern California
Posts: 16,636
Rep Power: 1432
daguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond repute
daguin daguin is offline
Super Moderator
daguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sunny Southern California
Posts: 16,636
Rep Power: 1432
daguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond reputedaguin has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rpaloalto View Post
Thanks for the update kenom

Dave I'm glad you got your krytons and that they all work. I'm tempted to just ask ken to send me my kryton, as is. Sure I would get it now, but I have been waiting 6 months for a blue anodized one
Yeah. Mine are not for personal use, so it really didn't matter. They were just going to be clear anyway. I haven't decided if I am going to bother with polishing them or not. I like the way bare, machined aluminum looks

I just got hold of an old Kryton "Smooth." It has some damage to the head, but I think I can sand it out

Peace,
dave
__________________
How To Get Along In and Be Accepted in the Forum

If you got some value out of reading this forum, how about donating $2 to keep it going?
Click Here to donate

Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none.
-William Shakespeare
daguin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2010, 02:26 AM #893
icecruncher's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,202
Rep Power: 4076
icecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond repute
icecruncher icecruncher is online now
Class 3R Laser
icecruncher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,202
Rep Power: 4076
icecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond reputeicecruncher has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenom View Post
1. The beasts will still be done. However since pontiac is feeling personally attacked in this ordeal, (not once have I outright blamed anyone for anything) I will have to go with a different machine shop. Given the hostility, I would do so anyway. I just plain don't do conflict.

Thanks for this update. I'll hold for the beasts. Can't hardly wait. If the grooves are the same quality as the last generation of these and likewise with the beasts. Then I'm quite happy with that.
__________________
Gas Giant
icecruncher is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2010, 03:40 AM #894
Pontiacg5's Avatar
Class 3B Laser
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ottawa, Kansas
Posts: 2,524
Rep Power: 121
Pontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond repute
Pontiacg5 Pontiacg5 is offline
Class 3B Laser
Pontiacg5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ottawa, Kansas
Posts: 2,524
Rep Power: 121
Pontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond reputePontiacg5 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenom View Post
sorry folks, I've been a bit busy with legal matters lately to follow up on this thread and answer any questions regarding the barrels. There are a lot of issues and questions recently in this thread and I will try to address them all.

1. The beasts will still be done. However since pontiac is feeling personally attacked in this ordeal, (not once have I outright blamed anyone for anything) I will have to go with a different machine shop. Given the hostility, I would do so anyway. I just plain don't do conflict.

2. if you want to swap out your beast order for some grooves, email me and we'll work something out.

3. I usually get my taxes around the middle of january and will have the money then to finalize all the things outstanding.

4 its been my experience that chasing threads with the taps I have, have not resulted in damaged threads. those of you from the second run know that I had to chase every single thread for the lenses and they were perfectly fine when I was done. the tap I ordered to chase the threads in the barrel section of the grooves fit smoothly all the way to the bottom and did NOT remove any material. The threads there are fine. I did not order a die to chase the heads as I believed at the time that it was in the barrel. I have since ordered the die to chase the threads on the head and it will arrive on the 17th of this month. I will TEST this on one barrel and see what it does. from there I will progress as I see will provide me with the best results. if that means tapping each one or hitting them with a die, I will do so. If I have to leave them as-is and just anodize them as-is, then that is what will be done but you can rest assured that you will get a functional product just as you ordered.

Now, Pontiac: I am not attacking you. I have only made one remark about the changes made to the fins and that is the only thing. You indicated you followed the designs that I sent you and I believe that.. If the changes made were in accordance with the designs sent to you, then it is my fault and not yours. I have not specified that you made any errors either with the threads. I have just informed everyone that I have run into issues. I sent jayrob a polished and unpolished barrel so that he could see exactly what I am seeing and that is that there is NOT a issue that is so big that it cannot be resolved. the barrels are fine, and whatever issues I have with them will be resolved. so stop attacking me and trying to get everyone in a fit. Look back at everything and put it back into the perspective that it should be and you'll see that there has been no accusations made.

I'm pretty sure that chasing the threads on the head with a die is not going to work. You'll be trying to remove a lot more material since I cut the threads so shallow and since the threads are pretty coarse there's not going to be a lot of engagement between the die and threads before the die starts cutting. If you can't provide some constant steady pressure the die will just slip and eat through what threads it already engaged with. A tap is different since they are tapered, there should be a lot more engagement to keep the tap from just spinning and chewing threads unlike a die. I know dies are usually tapered, but nowhere near as much as a tap is.
I still suggest hitting the burrs on the leading edges of the threads with a scotchbrite pad, especially if the issue is now intermittent.

I still don't buy your claim of not attacking me or my work, especially when you post things like...

- "I can't believe that these left your hands without you having seen how difficult it is to thread these heads if you can get them to go."

Really? Now it seems that the heads will thread together but they get stuck sometime. So we went from not threading at all, to only threading sometimes. Either way, I would call that quote specifying "that [I] made any errors either with the threads."

- "I donno what to say other than the last batches I got from a different cnc shop worked smoothly with no issues directly from them so mikes argument that touch up needs to be done is not relevant in this case or they did the touch up before giving them to me."

The last shops did the touch up for you? Then why exactly did you have to chase all of the threads with a tap? I'd consider that a slight "touch up"

- "since the threads were cut tight on purpose the heat produced by polishing is making it so they no longer thread."

Now the polishing is causing the threads to bind? I thought they didn't thread together at all when you got them? Now the polished and unpolished ones Jayrob tested work fine?

I also don't know why you keep referring to me as a machine shop, I thought I made it pretty clear from the get-go that I was going to do all the work for these barrels after hours on my own time, as an individual, to help get the costs down. The shop I work for had nothing to do with these things. The only thing you paid for on these barrels is for renting the machines, the aluminum, and the tooling I didn't already have. I worked after hours on weekends and nights to make these things, all off the clock as a favor to you and so I could have some part in the ever popular Groove. I never guessed it would end this way though...

Either way, I'll leave this thread with this post and let everyone draw their own conclusions. I hope everything turns out in the end. If anyone needs me, just PM me.

Dave, I'm glad to hear you got those Grooves and that they all work fine for you!

Last edited by Pontiacg5; 12-18-2010 at 03:43 AM.
Pontiacg5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 12:26 PM #895
532 with Envy's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Somewhere between Here and THere
Posts: 1,491
Rep Power: 576
532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute
532 with Envy 532 with Envy is offline
Class 3R Laser
532 with Envy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Somewhere between Here and THere
Posts: 1,491
Rep Power: 576
532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute532 with Envy has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

Just a bump up to the top of GB...

Trying to keep it alive!
__________________
_______________________________________________

337.1nm Home Built TEA Laser
HeNe lasers a'plenty.Plus that nice one in the avatar
594nm Melles Griot HeNe
594nm Trius Engineering HeNe
405nm handhelds (diy)
445nm handhelds (diy)
473nm B&W Tek lab style
488nm.40mW Multi-Line Argon Ion laser.....(with thanks to Dave)
515nm Argon Ion laser 40mW
532nm lab style 100mW+handhelds (diy)
543nm Melles Griot HeNe
674nm lab style..500mW
808nm 40W FAP diode array
Kimmon IK4123R-B Helium-Cadmium laser and matching power supply.(with great thanks to Event_Horizon!)(Non-working head...PM me if you have one or information)
532 with Envy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 12:46 PM #896
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London, UK
Posts: 881
Rep Power: 0
SMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant future
SMIDSY SMIDSY is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London, UK
Posts: 881
Rep Power: 0
SMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant futureSMIDSY has a brilliant future
Default Re: The REAL Kryton GB round #3. Taking payments now.

Im still confused here.... does anyone have any news? 2 trusted members are at each other's throats..... thats all I see.....
SMIDSY is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply





Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://laserpointerforums.com/f55/real-kryton-gb-round-3-taking-payments-now-48664.html
Posted By For Type Date
Laserpointerforum - Aw: Flashlight frage zum Microboost Driver mit der 445 - Laserpointerforum This thread Refback 04-26-2012 10:08 AM
Kryton Groove Laser Host - YouTube This thread Refback 04-11-2012 09:11 PM
YouTube - Kryton Groove Laser Host This thread Refback 02-27-2011 05:58 PM










Loading








Green Laser Pointers by Category Blue Laser Pointers by Category Red Laser Pointers by Category
Yellow Laser Pointers by Category Violet Laser Pointers by Category Orange Laser Pointers by Category
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes






Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use


 


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:33 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO
Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use
Copyright (C) 2017 Laser Pointer Forums, LLC