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This GB is now closed, we were able to order a total of 12 pairs of ML-7 goggles, thanks everybody!!
http://mysite.verizon.net/grall/darkhorsecustom/id71.html
“The problem”
Like many "laserists' here on the forum, Iplay “work” with some powerful lasers of different wavelengths and need to protect my eyes. When looking into buying some goggles you realize that most lenses only protect against a single-wavelength, which makes sense, if they protected against every wavelength they would be opaque. For me this would mean buying at least 4-different goggles at $30-$100 each. So again, like many others I asked, what about multi-wavelength protection, is it possible?
“The solution?”
Well it is, they filter out very-specific "laser-corresponding-wavelengths", while letting much of the rest of the light through, but the less expensive MW-lenses let less than 1% of the visible light through to your eyes, this would not be good. In reading through the reviews here this question has been brought up many times and 1-pair of glasses keeps being mentioned, the ML7s from OEM laser-systems. These let 13% of visible light through, they are described in a review as just a little darker than sunglasses, they are also certified by ANSI for Laser protection.
Specs are
OD 5+ @ 190-400nm
OD 2.5+ @ 532nm
OD 1.5+ @ 630-655nm
OD 3.7+ @ 795-1070nm
OD 4+ @ 810-1064nm
VLT = 13%
Several members have purchased these goggles, even with their $157 list-price and here is one review:
http://www.laserpointerforums.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1209626843
And some discussion of multi-wavelength goggles here:
http://www.laserpointerforums.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1212526616/0
Others members that may have experience with these lenses, please post you impressions in this thread.
Here is the manufactures site:
http://store.oemlasersystems.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8_10_15&products_id=44
“The Deal”
So I contacted "Frothy Chimp", (LPF member and OEM Laser Systems Representative), and a group buy was suggested. I now have the specifics of what price we can expect to purchase these goggles in numbers from OEM Laser Systems.
Now keep in mind that OEM Laser Systems already extends a generous 7.5% discount to all LPF members and these glasses are available in August for “group-discounts”
Here's the discount breakdown:
1-4: 0% discount
5-9: 5% discount
10-19: 7.5% discount
20-99: 10% discount
100+: 15% discount
Then add on top of that the 7.5% discount for LPF (NOR200801)
So if we get 20 people, we could get 10%+7.5%(LPF-Discount)=17.5% off
These goggles are now listed at $151 retail so 17.5% would be about a $25 savings!
There is also some shipping to cover, the supplier would bulk-ship all of the goggles to me, and I would split them up and send them out, and of course Pay Pal always gets theirs, but the goal is to get them for $130-$140 delivered to the US, and slightly higher for international delivery. There are several styles available, although one pair does cost an additional $15. This Buy is for the ML7-lensed-goggles only, review the choices here:
http://store.oemlasersystems.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8_10_15&products_id=44
“The Disclaimer”
I personally have absolutely no connection with OEM other than what you have read in a couple of threads and a PM. They seam like a very reputable company and Frothy Chimp has been a wealth of laser-industry knowledge on this forum for a very long time. I have no reservations in dealing with them.
I have not personally reviewed, tested, or even held these goggles, I am satisfied enough with the information that I have read from the members whom have purchased these that they are a viable "single-goggle-solution", and I am willing to take that risk. Please do your own research as well and make this determination for yourself, I can make no promises on the performance of the eye wear except to say that if they do no meet the published specifications, they will get sent back and replacements or refunds would be given. I do not expect there to be any problem.
“The Time-Frame”
I really do not want to drag this out, additionally this opportunity for group-discounts is only available through August. I will begin taking names of people that can commit to participating in this GB right now. Please post in this thread.
Please if you commit, we will all need you to follow through in a couple of weeks.
I am setting a deadline of August 18th for collecting names. If we have over 20 people committed by then, I will begin collecting funds to make a group purchase from OEM by August 26th. If we do not have at least 20 commited by Aug 18th, we will probably call it off, the savings just do not justify it over purchasing individiually.
“The Sermon”
It is time to get some protection, I am not going to preach about being careful, but we play with very powerfull lasers. How can we prove to the world that we are responsible laser-users? Well I would think that becoming responsible would be a good start. If we have a sharp rise of Laser-hobbists receiving retinal-burns, it give the press and politicians something to talk about, our hobby will be short-lived. Oh yeah, and don't shine your laser into the sky at aircraft... damn, I got "preachy", oh well.
DH
[highlight]Prices have been updated as of 8-21 to reflect OEM's price reduction and use of Google checkout to reduce costs. [/highlight]
Ok everybody, Here are the updated prices with OEM's new price reductions, and using "Google Checkout" exclusively As of 8-21-08
For reference, here is what it would cost for any of us to purchase and ship a single-pair of ML-7's directly from OEM: $146
5-goggles=$134 ($12 savings per pair)
10-goggles=$130 ($16 savings per pair)
20 goggles=$128 ($18 savings per pair)
As before, these prices are shipped to your door in the US, or $2 more for international.
DH
The payment page is now up!! ;D
http://mysite.verizon.net/grall/darkhorsecustom/id71.html
http://mysite.verizon.net/grall/darkhorsecustom/id71.html
“The problem”
Like many "laserists' here on the forum, I
“The solution?”
Well it is, they filter out very-specific "laser-corresponding-wavelengths", while letting much of the rest of the light through, but the less expensive MW-lenses let less than 1% of the visible light through to your eyes, this would not be good. In reading through the reviews here this question has been brought up many times and 1-pair of glasses keeps being mentioned, the ML7s from OEM laser-systems. These let 13% of visible light through, they are described in a review as just a little darker than sunglasses, they are also certified by ANSI for Laser protection.
Specs are
OD 5+ @ 190-400nm
OD 2.5+ @ 532nm
OD 1.5+ @ 630-655nm
OD 3.7+ @ 795-1070nm
OD 4+ @ 810-1064nm
VLT = 13%
Several members have purchased these goggles, even with their $157 list-price and here is one review:
http://www.laserpointerforums.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1209626843
And some discussion of multi-wavelength goggles here:
http://www.laserpointerforums.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1212526616/0
Others members that may have experience with these lenses, please post you impressions in this thread.
Here is the manufactures site:
http://store.oemlasersystems.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8_10_15&products_id=44
“The Deal”
So I contacted "Frothy Chimp", (LPF member and OEM Laser Systems Representative), and a group buy was suggested. I now have the specifics of what price we can expect to purchase these goggles in numbers from OEM Laser Systems.
Now keep in mind that OEM Laser Systems already extends a generous 7.5% discount to all LPF members and these glasses are available in August for “group-discounts”
Here's the discount breakdown:
1-4: 0% discount
5-9: 5% discount
10-19: 7.5% discount
20-99: 10% discount
100+: 15% discount
Then add on top of that the 7.5% discount for LPF (NOR200801)
So if we get 20 people, we could get 10%+7.5%(LPF-Discount)=17.5% off
These goggles are now listed at $151 retail so 17.5% would be about a $25 savings!
There is also some shipping to cover, the supplier would bulk-ship all of the goggles to me, and I would split them up and send them out, and of course Pay Pal always gets theirs, but the goal is to get them for $130-$140 delivered to the US, and slightly higher for international delivery. There are several styles available, although one pair does cost an additional $15. This Buy is for the ML7-lensed-goggles only, review the choices here:
http://store.oemlasersystems.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8_10_15&products_id=44
“The Disclaimer”
I personally have absolutely no connection with OEM other than what you have read in a couple of threads and a PM. They seam like a very reputable company and Frothy Chimp has been a wealth of laser-industry knowledge on this forum for a very long time. I have no reservations in dealing with them.
I have not personally reviewed, tested, or even held these goggles, I am satisfied enough with the information that I have read from the members whom have purchased these that they are a viable "single-goggle-solution", and I am willing to take that risk. Please do your own research as well and make this determination for yourself, I can make no promises on the performance of the eye wear except to say that if they do no meet the published specifications, they will get sent back and replacements or refunds would be given. I do not expect there to be any problem.
“The Time-Frame”
I really do not want to drag this out, additionally this opportunity for group-discounts is only available through August. I will begin taking names of people that can commit to participating in this GB right now. Please post in this thread.
Please if you commit, we will all need you to follow through in a couple of weeks.
I am setting a deadline of August 18th for collecting names. If we have over 20 people committed by then, I will begin collecting funds to make a group purchase from OEM by August 26th. If we do not have at least 20 commited by Aug 18th, we will probably call it off, the savings just do not justify it over purchasing individiually.
“The Sermon”
It is time to get some protection, I am not going to preach about being careful, but we play with very powerfull lasers. How can we prove to the world that we are responsible laser-users? Well I would think that becoming responsible would be a good start. If we have a sharp rise of Laser-hobbists receiving retinal-burns, it give the press and politicians something to talk about, our hobby will be short-lived. Oh yeah, and don't shine your laser into the sky at aircraft... damn, I got "preachy", oh well.
DH
[highlight]Prices have been updated as of 8-21 to reflect OEM's price reduction and use of Google checkout to reduce costs. [/highlight]
Ok everybody, Here are the updated prices with OEM's new price reductions, and using "Google Checkout" exclusively As of 8-21-08
For reference, here is what it would cost for any of us to purchase and ship a single-pair of ML-7's directly from OEM: $146
5-goggles=$134 ($12 savings per pair)
10-goggles=$130 ($16 savings per pair)
20 goggles=$128 ($18 savings per pair)
As before, these prices are shipped to your door in the US, or $2 more for international.
DH
The payment page is now up!! ;D
http://mysite.verizon.net/grall/darkhorsecustom/id71.html
(style 32 & 35)
