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Old 07-30-2010, 11:46 PM #1
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Smile LaserGlow Rigel 593.5nm GB - "The Original Yellow Laser Pointer"

So here's the deal: ever since the development and release of 589nm lasers, 593.5nm pointers have been effectively replaced as the Yellow Pointer of choice for most customers. The Rigel-HV (LaserGlow's 589nm counterpart of the original 593.5nm Rigel pointer) has been doing much better in terms of sales, and therefore the original Rigel 593.5nm pointer has come to a bit of a halt with the sales. Most people just care about the "logical" decision in terms of marginally greater visibility, improved stability, and the newer product. In come we, the laser enthusiasts of LPF, the infamous complete-laser-spectrum collection-whores that we are (pardon the crude terminology ), to help push the sales of those last units along, with the first-ever LaserGlow RIGEL Group Buy! Sure it may not be as good as 589nm in a number of ways, but the important part is: it's a different technology, a different wavelength, and in the end, a different laser. And therefore, it can never be entirely replaced by 589nm. Or at least not to us collectors.

"My stock right now will not support a group buy on the Rigel-2 or Rigel-10 (these are extremely rare in any given production run), but on the fives or sixes I can give you a good discount." -LaserGlow Sales Rep

Rigel-5 (2.0 - 4.9mW) (reg. $399)
5+ units = $339 (15% off)
10+ units = $319 (20% off)
20+ units = $299 (25% off)

Rigel-6 (5 - 9mW) (reg. $499)
5+ units = $424 (15% off)
10+ units = $374 (25% off)
20+ units = $349 (30% off)

The quantity for discounting purposes can be the total order quantity, meaning that if we buy 10 of each, we will get the 20 unit discount across the whole order.

"If you have these all shipped to one location I will include trackable air shipping for free. If you want them to be shipped individually to each buyer then there may be a small frieght charge of $10-15/ea depending on the location."


Disadvantages of 593.5nm compared to the newer 589nm technology:
-Greater power fluctuation (decreased output stability) due to a more complex DPSS system.
-Color is marginally less visible to human eye due to 593.5nm being 4.5 nanometers farther from the center of the color spectrum than 589nm (555nm is the peak of human vision in daytime).

Advantages of the 593.5nm Rigel over the 589nm Rigel-HV:
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Cost Effectiveness: More Bang for your Buck
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Slimmer, generally more attractive host (the classic Glossy-Black with Gold Accents CNI pen with pocket clip; run on 2xAAA batteries)
-The color is closer to orange, with a warmer, fire-like beam.
-It's the original Yellow Laser pointer. (it's the Ice-T of yellow laser point.... never mind.)


Note: We are still looking for a Veteran to kindly assist us with handling the payments and shipments (if we decide to take the mass-shipment route).

Also, I must of course credit Aryntha with the original idea and inspiration behind this Group Buy.

:::Order Count:::
Rigel-5: Fonduman*
Rigel-6:
*=Upgrade to R6 if 20+ discount applies

Anyways, without further ado, let the first Rigel Group-Buy begin!

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Default Re: LaserGlow Rigel 593.5nm GB - "The Original Yellow Laser Pointer"

Great, i've been looking into orange pointers. I know 593.5 isnt orange exactly, but being the more orange type of yellow it'd be great to get a cheap deal.

you can put me down effectively for either depending on the order numbers we get. if we get 20+ i'll go with the more powerful one.
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Default Re: LaserGlow Rigel 593.5nm GB - "The Original Yellow Laser Pointer"

Great, btw I'm positive that we'll at least get the 10+ discount and I think we have a definite chance of 20+. I'll also inquire to see if maybe we can get any further discounts if we get even more orders.

Also, I will now be editing the OP with any new orders so people can keep track of what the count and current discount-level is.

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Wow people come on this is just way too much interest... slow down so I can keep up with the orders

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guess people dont like orange/yellow any more
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guess people dont like orange/yellow any more
That, or we don't have the spare hundreds to spend on just 5mW of light (though believe me, I'd WANT too)

Though maybe once the 445nm craze dies down, a lucky new manufacturer will start using yellow diodes in a consumer product (Boy-oh BOYY would that be great... would be a "Yelazer player"

(and yes, I understand it wouldn't happen above^^, especially with the whole point of blu-ray is higher frequency, more data it can store per unit volume)

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Default Re: LaserGlow Rigel 593.5nm GB - "The Original Yellow Laser Pointer"

Cmak, I'd love to see if they can offer any of their high powered Vegas in here (not Vega-HV; I'm talking 593.4) .. Wonder if Justin would be willing to do that?
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It makes no sense to conduct a group buy while purchasing from a reseller. Prices would likely be cheaper directly from CNI.

Also, I doubt you will get 10 orders. Only die hard laser nuts will spend that much on >5mW

Finally, my 593.5 has no stability issues at all. I've never seen it mode hop once. It gets hot, but thats understandable. I see lots of people saying 593.5 has stability issues, but I don't see too many people with a 593.5

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My Rigel definitely has "going green" issues. My Vega/PGL-III-C is pretty stable.
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dunno about that. They have already bulk buyed from CNI, reducing prices. the additional price increase they add to that for increased profit is probably mostly negated by the group buy discounts. They are trying to clear stuff not many are buying after all.
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dunno about that. They have already bulk buyed from CNI, reducing prices. the additional price increase they add to that for increased profit is probably mostly negated by the group buy discounts. They are trying to clear stuff not many are buying after all.
Yes, but there is still a step of profit in there that is not necessary.
I can pretty much guarantee that it would be cheaper direct from CNI. Its pretty common knowledge that eliminating a middle man decreases prices.
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Default Re: LaserGlow Rigel 593.5nm GB - "The Original Yellow Laser Pointer"

Well, sort of - the only reason I'd agree somewhat with cmak is: CNI usually builds their lasers to order, and those parts/labor are pretty much fixed.

In LG's sitaution, they have a bunch of surplus inventory they're unlikely to move, ever, in the wake of 589. Whereas CNI can just stop manufacturing 593.5, and not worry about the lack of demand, LG has these units burning a hole in their ledger, as it were.

It'd make more sense for LG to recoup some of their original purchase price from CNI than none at all, whereas CNI just has to not bother with building any more.
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Yes, but there is still a step of profit in there that is not necessary.
I can pretty much guarantee that it would be cheaper direct from CNI. Its pretty common knowledge that eliminating a middle man decreases prices.
Normally, this is indeed how it goes, and you are correct. However, sometimes there are exceptions for situations like these, and Aryntha summed it up quite perfectly. Thanks for that btw
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Cmak, I'd love to see if they can offer any of their high powered Vegas in here (not Vega-HV; I'm talking 593.4) .. Wonder if Justin would be willing to do that?
I'll inquire tomorrow (they're Canada-based IIRC and it's still Sunday over there).
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My Rigel definitely has "going green" issues. My Vega/PGL-III-C is pretty stable.
The going green issues were only prevalent in the early generations of the Rigel, and from what I understand the latest generation doesn't have this issue at all. Well, unless you live in an igloo in Antarctica, that is.

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Default Re: LaserGlow Rigel 593.5nm GB - "The Original Yellow Laser Pointer"

Well, to satisfy both parties, maybe Scopeguy can see what CNI would charge for them in his GB. He has the 589s listed; maybe the 593s can be as well.
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