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Old 11-08-2008, 08:43 PM #1393
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Default Re: Laser Barrels V2. GB. Second run. Kryton Groov

Thanks for the responses!

I will definitely order the TrustFires.

How about chargers?

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How much current will an 18650 put out for maybe 10 seconds at a time? I think this battery is similar to those used in hybred cars.

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Default Re: Laser Barrels V2. GB. Second run. Kryton Groov

Yes mike the 18650 is the battery that is found in both hybrid cars and in some laptop batteries. It wes the main reason that these batteries were so hard to find and so expensive for a while. Now that's not the case.
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Yes mike the 18650 is the battery that is found in both hybrid carsand in some laptop batteries
wow... I had no idea - just knew that they pack a wallop! I've been running my Big Red Kryton, with an 18650, quite a bit for more than a week and it's still going strong.

So, all I need to do is fill my truck bed full of 'em, and wire them to my starter motor, then a few solar cells on the hood - and then "energy independence"?
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forgot the charger: TrustFire All-in-One Charger

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Default Re: Laser Barrels V2. GB. Second run. Kryton Groov

Sweet! Thanks for the link Danq.

I had no idea 18650s were used in hybrids... I wonder how cheap they'll become in the next few years since it seems they'll probably be produced more and more.

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Default Re: Laser Barrels V2. GB. Second run. Kryton Groov

Nice discussion but will they output 10 Amps for short periods?

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Nice discussion but will they output 10 Amps for short periods?

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from Charge and discharge characteristics of a commercial LiCoO2-based 18650 Li-ion battery:

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Charge and discharge characteristics of a commercial LiCoO2-based 18650 Li-ion battery
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ZHANG S. S. (1) ; XU K. (1) ; JOW T. R. (1) ;
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(1) U.S. Army Research Laboratory, AMSRD-ARL-SE-DC, Adelphi, MD 20783-1197, ETATS-UNIS
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We studied the charge and discharge characteristics of commercial LiCoO2-based 18650 cells by using various electrochemical methods, including discharging at constant power, ac impedance spectroscopy, and dc-voltage pulse. At 20 °C, these cells deliver 8.7-6.8 Wh of energy when discharged at a power range of 1-12 W between 2.5 and 4.2 V. Ragone plots show that the effect of discharge power on the energy is significantly increased with decreasing of the temperature. For example, energy of the cell is entirely lost when the temperature downs to -10°C and the discharge rate still remains at 10 W. Impedance analyses indicate that the total cell resistance (Rcell) is mainly contributed by the bulk resistance (Rb, including electric contact resistance and electrolytic ionic conductivity), solid electrolyte interface resistance (Rsei), and charge-transfer resistance (Rct). Individual contribution of these three resistances to the cell resistance is greatly varied with the temperature. Near room temperature, the Rb occupies up to half of the cell resistance, which means that the rate performance of the cell could be improved by modifying cell design such as employing electrolyte with higher ionic conductivity and enhancing electric contact of the active material particles. At low temperature, the Rct, which is believed to reflect cell reaction kinetics, dominates the cell resistance. In addition, galvanosatic cycling tests indicate that the charge and discharge processes have nearly same kinetics. The performance discrepancy observed during charging and discharging, especially at low temperatures, can be attributed to these two factors of: (1) substantially higher Rct at the discharged state than at the charged state; (2) asymmetric voltage limits pre-determined for the charge and discharge processes.

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Mike, that was just the first thing I found...
they used 12W, and 12W @ 4V = 3A

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I think there should be a thread in the multimedia section called "Kryton Pictures" or something, and we should all share a couple of pictures of our krytons, or something. I would start it, but i haven't got mine yet.
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Default Re: Laser Barrels V2. GB. Second run. Kryton Groov

I've tried opening a thread for Kryton pictures. Essentially all the v1's look pretty much the same unless you paint it or something. Now the Kryton grooves, that's a different story. Each one is literally different.
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Just ordered a pair of those from DX... Thanks guys for the info and link!!

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am sad. :'( is still waiting for mine :-/ :'(
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Kryton Kryton I want my oompa loopma now

oh yea wrong flashback anyways hey Ken any news on the black unpolished grooves i'm starting to feine............................................
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I was not home when a delivery attempt was made today. *Being as I was to have gotten a shipment last week, this is I'm thinking the remainder of the custom barrels. *I'm a bit dissapointed as this should have arrived last week and not this week. *However, since it is late, maybe he's included some of the other black and clear barrels in this shipment as well. *We shall see. *I'll try to stop by and pick up the package at the local ups hub.

Looks like I'm cursed to be tormented by people who love to put my stuff on the back burner while they do more important things than my orders. *Or say they are going to ship something this day, and wait a week before finally doing so.
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Well it's a good thing you guys don't want your barrels anytime soon. Oh wait!! You do!!! hehe.
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