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Old 12-21-2008, 01:22 PM #1505
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I don't trust the Chinese. *> *Sounds like they are pulling our chain. * >
I know for a fact, that the chinese suppliers never once lied about what they were selling.

When they offered me 4x's, they offered them as 4x's. Only after i asked, did they say "same as 6x". Later i researched WHY they said this, and they showed me a photo, saying a customer sent them that photo, and together they decided that it LOOKS the same so it must be the same. (I explained several times, why the sled being the same means the diode can't be) But they still continued to sell the 4x's as 4x's, NOT as 6x's!

It later turned out, that the photo was from GooeyGus, who the customer was, i will never know.


When the "12x's" appeared, i asked about them immediatelly, i asked what the sled is. They said "we don't know". I asked again, they said "we don't know what it is". I asked a third time (not giving ANY suggestions), and they said "we don't know if they are 12x". (obviously someone else was suggesting this to them).


They are hard negotiators, they want to milk us for what we're worth, they may lie about stock to make us buy more faster at a higher price, but never once did they lie about WHAT they are selling.


The person, who told Amk that the Sanyo sled is 450xx was NOT one of the actual suppliers, but a middle man at best.


The original GB did say it is for 6x's, but it also said "the sleds come from a 4x writer" and that it is only "claimed to be same as 6x" on the first page. When i placed my order, i knew i was taking a risk, which is why i am not complaining about that part.


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I don't trust the Chinese. * > *Sounds like they are pulling our chain. * >


They are hard negotiators, they want to milk us for what we're worth, they may lie about stock to make us buy more faster at a higher price, but never once did they lie about WHAT they are selling.

I fell that I must respond even though I previously said that I was now mute.

So it is ok to lie sometimes?

Confucius say "you cheat me *(lie) once-shame on you. You cheat me (lie) twice-shame on me"

Really I don't want to complain or debate. I think we both agree that some chinese are avid negotiators, and like good salesmen will present things to their benefit. *

I just want out of this mess.

Thanks again AMK *

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everyone has been refunded.


to any assholes who now want refunds for batches 1 and 2, those were shipped. Go sit in a corner and cry your ass off.


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everyone has been refunded.


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[quote author=amkdeath link=1223438970/1500#1513 date=1229999112]everyone has been refunded.


to any assholes who now want refunds for batches 1 and 2, those were shipped. Go sit in a corner and cry your ass off.


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I got many many PM's and E-mails of people who wanted to take advantage of the opportunity, and they said "I want a refund for batches 1, 2 AND 3, because you are crap, your service is crap, your store : is crap, and I got a diode that I guess is not what I wanted... So I made it into a laser anyways and am having fun, but YOU amk, you are an ASSHOLE and I WANT MY MONEY BACK!!>!>!111!!"

anyone who made a claim, dispute, or tried to will not be allowed to participate in ANY of my future GB's. It holds EVERYTHING up, and other people should NOT have to wait for YOUR selfishness.

you know who you are.

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ah if that was the situation then that was well deserved. sorry about withdrawing from the GB about a month ago :-/ I needed the money
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Hey Amk, I got a PayPal notice of a refund for the last 2 sleds that I added to batch 3. But I did not get the larger refund from batch 3. I paid for 4 sleds in batch 3 on 10/30, and added 2 more on 11/23 for a total of 6...

I understand that because there were two different payments, you may have overlooked the first 'larger' payment. If you check the dates, you will see. Because I always put notes in the comments for what the payment is for...
(This is why you have me on your batch 3 list as 'paid' for 6)

Please check this and refund me for the other 4 sleds.
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P.S. Thanks for your efforts in trying to get these Amk... I have bought through your GB's before, and will continue to do so in the future...
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I haven't got a refund yet. The name will be Alan Dixon, and the transaction number is :
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Thanks AMK. I appreciate the effort, and believe the criticism is not acceptable from others, especially those that have never done a GB, and from those who tried but didn't finish.
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everyone has been refunded.


to any assholes who now want refunds for batches 1 and 2, those were shipped. Go sit in a corner and cry your ass off.


regards,

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EDIT: thank you for the support, I did not "leave". I was doing refunds on a money come money go basis. Please wait a few hours for the confirmation e-mail, if it doesnt come and you are not refunded pm me.


I haven't been refunded either.


Trans: 92D38095GG030230Y


I have been patient, I haven't bothered you though PM or e-mail, I realize it takes time to refund all participants...but now I am in need of the 66$, so could you refund ASAP?


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They are hard negotiators, they want to milk us for what we're worth, they may lie about stock to make us buy more faster at a higher price, but never once did they lie about WHAT they are selling.

I fell that I must respond even though I previously said that I was now mute.

So it is ok to lie sometimes?
I did not say it's ok to lie. I have been a nervous wrack for the last week, because of their sales tactics, and everyone's fears and doubts. They put so much pressure on me, that i barelly slept, trying to arrange everything, making sure it would go through OK.

Had i been screwed, i would now be ruined!


What i was trying to say in my previous post was, that the chinese suppliers never offered 4x's as 6x's or Sanyo sleds as 12x's - they didn't lie about WHAT it was they were selling. Because of that, i felt confident enough to make a GGW purchase myself.


The package arrived yesterday to a friend in US. I prepared a 4x vs. 6x comparison photo for him beforehand, so he could check they are all real. But when he said "it's here", my heart stopped for a minute. I never bought directly before, and it was about A LOT of money! I couldn't do ANYTHING untill he counted them all and checked they all have the extra heatsink. But they did!

And now i have 6x's. The chinese squeezed as much as possible out of me, but they delivered the correct product. The contents of the package were as promissed.


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Neo-Confucius says "Milk the cow dry. And then some.".
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Does anyone have a macro of a confirmed GGW 6x diode from a writer drive - the bottom with the barcode clearly visible?

I have an unknown diode in pristine condition here (not harvested, untouched pins, arrived in a tray), that looks eerily familiar. I think i saw the 6x barcode macro in this thread. I'd like to compare it..



EDIT: Here's a super-macro of the unknown 405nm diode, next to a 4x and a PHR. (4x is in bad shape cos it's dead and was removed from a module)
This is either a completelly new diode, or it could be the diode used in 6x sleds!

EDIT 2: Ok, i found the 6x barcode in a post by TheSk8tnMidget. It's not the same. This is a new diode! Don't know which would be more exciting. ;D
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Hey Amk, you're a very honorable man. *Thanks allot for all your hard work and efforts. *If you ever do another GB, I want everybody here to know that you are very trust worthy. *I'm sorry that things didn't work out. * * ** * P.S. thanks for the refund. *[smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Here's another 6x code photo. They encode the lot number so the codes should be a little different.

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Got my refunds Thanx alot.

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Default Re: GGW-H20L 6x Sled GB!!! THE EPIC GB THREAD LAWL

Thanks, Andrew, that's helpful. I would expect some differences, yeah. And the unknown diode has some similarities with the 4x barcode. But hopefully not too many! ;D


BTW, is that thermal paste between the diode and AixiZ? I do that too..
Or is it thermal adhesive?
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