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Old 10-15-2008, 11:05 AM #209
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Very nice.. Altho you should be careful with the Meredith, as the 660nm coating can increase the retroreflections at 405nm (that's why 650nm coatings look blue - they reflect blue).

It depends on the particular coating, and the Meredith doesn't look nearly as blue as some do, but it's hard to say just from looking at it. Some 650nm coatings can seem like an uncoated lens to a 405nm diode, others can have very high reflections in the 405nm range. In that case, the effect is the same as raising the current...

EDIT: I just did a simplified reflection measurement. I have no idea how accurate it is, but it would seem to be on the level of ~7% - that's like an uncoated lens.. Even if i missed something, it can't be that much more. So it doesn't seem to be worse than uncoated lenses in the reflection department. This explains why it increases the power, the good news is, it does so without increasing the strain on the diode! I also tested a 650nm AR coated acrylics, and even tho i couldn't get the entire reflection on the thermopile, it was already over 12%! The total could be twice that or more... That's why they halve the output of a 405nm diode, and at the same time increase the strain on it..



BTW, i made a somewhat shocking realisation recently. I saw a photo of a high power blu ray beam with the Meredith lens. And i saw something eerily familiar in it - the "wings"!

I have 30 405nm AR coated lenses (R<0.5%) here, which i declared useless and considered them a total loss, because they have those exact same wings! I've been sitting on them all summer! I was so obsessed with trying to achieve a perfect beam and spot (like the AixiZ acrylic makes, only thinner), that i completelly overlooked the fact, that the Meredith does the same thing! *:-[


They increase the power by around 16.5-19.5%, depending on which plastic lens you compare them to (the plastic lenses vary), and the specific wavelength of the diode (lower wavelengths are increased more, due to the sharp cut-off of acrylics at ~400nm) and reduce reflections to under 0.5%. That means increased power at reduced strain... For the diode, it's almost like setting the current lower, except that you get more power!

I considered them useless, but maybe i was too worried? Would you like to test one? I'm sending some to Dave too.


Altho i do not intend to use them, as the v3 are much better... Just for experimentation.. Or as a "novelty item" - the first hobby custom lens ever.. *:


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They increase the power by around 16.5-19.5% (depending on which plastic lens you compare them to - the plastic lenses vary / and the specific wavelength of the diode - lower wavelengths are increased more, due to the sharp cut-off of acrylics at ~400nm) and reduce reflections to under 0.5%.

I considered them useless, but maybe i was too worried? Would you like to test one? I'm sending some to Dave too.

Very much so Igor! I have been on vacation and have not kept up with your lens testing. I am very interested in this. And when you get to your best conclusion, I want to buy some. I will PM you my address.
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BTW, i made a somewhat shocking realisation recently. I saw a photo of a high power blu ray beam with the Meredith lens. And i saw something eerily familiar in it - the "wings"!

I have 30 405nm AR coated lenses (R<0.5%) here, which i declared useless and considered them a total loss, because they have those exact same wings! I've been sitting on them all summer! I was so obsessed with trying to achieve a perfect beam and spot (like the AixiZ acrylic makes, only thinner), that i completelly overlooked the fact, that the Meredith does the same thing! *:-[
One thing I have noticed about the Meredith modules, is that sometimes the 5.6mm adapter is a tight fit down into the brass outer module case. (this is better when it is this way - better heat transfer)

When it is a tight fit, you have to use something to press it all the way down into the module case. Sometimes having to reposition your tool at different points around the adapter as you 'wiggle' it into place.

If you are not watching for this, the diode can be out of alignment and give less power with more of the 'wing' effect you mentioned...
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Another thing you might want to look at with the Merideth is the shape of the "spot." When it is out of focus (with the PHR) the light is a "line." As you focus it, the line just gets shorter and shorter, until it is a small spot.

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If you are not watching for this, the diode can be out of alignment and give less power with more of the 'wing' effect you mentioned...
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Indeed, diode at an angle would be the same as lens at an angle.. Thanks for the info... Checking.. The one Dave sent me doesn't get stuck. It remains inside if i turn it upside down, but it doesn't get stuck in any way. Looks like a perfect fit.


Dave: What you're describing reminds me of the other glass lenses i tested so far. Especially the last one. It's really time i do a proper comparison now.

In any case, both your lenses are on the way. You will need a real AixiZ module or at least one with threads in the head, that extend to the diode or even to the bottom completelly, in order to get the lens in deep enough. It is a very short FL!

But i warn you. It won't be pretty, it's a spherical lens.. *;D Umm, ignore the wings or something... * :
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VERY interesting conversation, PLEASE KEEP IT HERE, I dont want to follow another thread.



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hm... maybe 1 for batch 3.
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[quote author=airy52 link=1223438970/200#218 date=1224114309]hm... maybe 1 for batch 3.
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