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Your post literally made me dig through years-old threads to find stevedezie which led to bhwollen then more of DarkArmyOfOne and bunch and bunch of other scammers... I never realized just how much drama I missed, holy s**t lol.

But Anthony has a good point that we're protected via Paypal buyer protection for 45 days. Unless he's found a crazy loophole, this shouldn't be a problem (how did stevedezie run away with the forum money, was that via Paypal too?)
I have no crazy loophole. I wont ship empty packages. I provide all my customers pictures of their items before and after packaging right before they ship and I send them pictures via e-mail right before sending packages.

Id like to handle some of the orders at least. That way people will hopefully trust me a little more.
If I could handle Canadian+ international orders that would be great
If someone else would like to handle the international orders then that would be great and I'll have the shipment sent to you

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Well with the case of bhwollen or the sparkels fiasco they did ship something. That is all that is required as paypal only requires proof of delivery. What was delivered is not their concern unlike eBay where you can say item was not as described.
Ugh I just don't understand why people would scam... Even to disregard all the guilty conscience feelings + terrible rep + the fact that you'll have to leave LPF forever and to only look at it monetarily: sure you gain some money immediately but you would be making more money over the long term, selling builds, remaining reputable and working your way up the ladder from building to upper markets, etc.

Some people just think too short term...

Ok this is my last derailment of this thread... sorry anthony :P

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Ugh I just don't understand why people would scam... Even to disregard all the guilty conscience feelings + terrible rep + the fact that you'll have to leave LPF forever and to only look at it monetarily: sure you gain some money immediately but you would be making more money over the long term, selling builds, remaining reputable and working your way up the ladder from building to upper markets, etc.

Some people just think too short term...

Ok this is my last derailment of this thread... sorry anthony :P
Thank you! I 100% agree! I'm attempting to get more trusted by doing this and getting the best prices for everyone. But just because this is my first GB then Im not as trusted... Oh well hopefully I can prove to everyone I'm not a scammer and I am a guy of my word.. I too can't see why you'd scam.....

Ok I've sent info to a reputable member to confirm I'm not scamming and that I actually have quotes and specs and everything I've been saying I have. Please wait for the reply. Note this may delay the order of these by a day or two..
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As someone who worked pretty closely with Stevie (and was forwarded all of his emails from eMachineShop, etc), it can be pretty darn hard to detect when someone is scamming you. In the Stevie case, he had actually placed an order with eMachineShop. He had confirmation emails from them (real ones), order numbers (real ones), and was actually going through the purchase process.

Point is - he presented himself in a way that was every bit as legitimate and verifiable as you have. So it's not a reflection on you that people are cautious here. We've just been burned before.

So it's probably not a horrible idea to have a vet handle this transaction. Though it's a big huge piss-off for me, because FOR ONCE I was looking forward to getting my package of goodies on time, instead of 2 weeks after everyone else!

And I suppose while we're on that topic it's worth mentioning that I'd be a bad person to lend my hand this time to organizing things / shipping. Eerily, for the exact same reason I didn't run the focus knob groupbuy myself last year (the one that Steevie took over and scammed us through). I've got another cross country move coming up at the end of April / beginning of May. That's probably smack dab in the middle of when these would be arriving.

So, sadly, I think this should probably be handed off to a vet - and that's going to imply someone in the US

That said, I personally don't care if my particular order is handled by AnthoT along with any other Canadian orders. If it doesn't dramatically increase the price to have him do the Canadian orders, and a US vet do the US orders, I'd gladly take that "risk" for the potential benefit of actually having these things arrive quickly
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I am perfectly fine with AnthoT handling the orders. Just throwing my opinion out there.
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I feel confident he will do a good job and get us the best price possible.
Although there are supposedly loopholes in Paypals dispute process, I think the one lesson we learned, is that before the 45 day window closes, you file a dispute. Even if you wait a few days after before escalating it, it's crucial to get that dispute in before the window closes. Since these modules are 15-day turnaround, that's not likely to be an issue.

Though I might suggest that if AnthoT is going forward with this, you research (ahead of time) what it will cost to have each package of modules go out with tracking.
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As someone who worked pretty closely with Stevie (and was forwarded all of his emails from eMachineShop, etc), it can be pretty darn hard to detect when someone is scamming you. In the Stevie case, he had actually placed an order with eMachineShop. He had confirmation emails from them (real ones), order numbers (real ones), and was actually going through the purchase process.

Point is - he presented himself in a way that was every bit as legitimate and verifiable as you have. So it's not a reflection on you that people are cautious here. We've just been burned before.

So it's probably not a horrible idea to have a vet handle this transaction. Though it's a big huge piss-off for me, because FOR ONCE I was looking forward to getting my package of goodies on time, instead of 2 weeks after everyone else!

And I suppose while we're on that topic it's worth mentioning that I'd be a bad person to lend my hand this time to organizing things / shipping. Eerily, for the exact same reason I didn't run the focus knob groupbuy myself last year (the one that Steevie took over and scammed us through). I've got another cross country move coming up at the end of April / beginning of May. That's probably smack dab in the middle of when these would be arriving.

So, sadly, I think this should probably be handed off to a vet - and that's going to imply someone in the US

That said, I personally don't care if my particular order is handled by AnthoT along with any other Canadian orders. If it doesn't dramatically increase the price to have him do the Canadian orders, and a US vet do the US orders, I'd gladly take that "risk" for the potential benefit of actually having these things arrive quickly
Yup... we're on the exact same boat here and I'm willing to trust Anthot with my orders as well.

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I agree and am personally fine with Anthony handeling the group buy. I have offered to have the US orders shipped directly to me for quicker distribution which he has agreed as long as it does not complicate the order for the company. Also I am going to talk with the company in question and get a feel for them and will report back what I find. Hopefully that is enough to put everyone at ease. I am thinking if there was to be an issue somewhere most likely it would be the product not being exactly what we were expecting or being delayed.

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Although there are supposedly loopholes in Paypals dispute process, I think the one lesson we learned, is that before the 45 day window closes, you file a dispute. Even if you wait a few days after before escalating it, it's crucial to get that dispute in before the window closes. Since these modules are 15-day turnaround, that's not likely to be an issue.

Though I might suggest that if AnthoT is going forward with this, you research (ahead of time) what it will cost to have each package of modules go out with tracking.

I know what he price is for tracked Mail and I will send every one tracked unless a buyer specifies not too.

I really really appreciate you guys trusting me it means a lot. I am working with DTR to handle these since some people think I'm not going to ship them or I'm a scammer or whatever. But im not sure who will be handling the orders as of now. There will likely only be a one day delay due to this issue so they will be ordered Monday night instead of Sunday night

I do promise whoevers orders I handle they will be handled and shipped within 12 hours of them arriving at my house and DTR will obviously still be great with the shipping and handling


It looks like DTR will handle the US orders an I will handle all the canadian and international.

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It looks like DTR will be taking care of those but I was planning on using expedited parcel( tracked, confirmed, insured) and it always got to the destination in 6 business days max from my experience
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Ok, makes sense. I was curious though, because expedited parcel is generally at least $14 for the smallest possible package.
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Ok, makes sense. I was curious though, because expedited parcel is generally at least $14 for the smallest possible package.
Ya once I shipped a 9x6 package for 13.27$. I used PayPal shipping it was also quite a light package at only 0.2lb. So it's less expensive for US buyers to get it from DTR aswell And I'll ship the rest

I think it's a perfect plan but we must wait on the manufacturers reply to DTR. It'd be a miracle if she replied tonight. Then we'd still be on plan to order these tomorow night if not then Monday so a 1 day delay.
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I've upp'd my order to 30.

We now need just 24 more to hit 750!!

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