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ArcticMyst Security by Avery

*Feeler* Wicked lasers.

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Hi guys!

I know I'm going to get alot of hate from this but its ok.

I would like to try and get a group buy discount from wicked lasers. I know this company ran u guys for your money in the past and with the Arctic fiasco.... but I think I can help better things with BOTH you the buyer and them the company. I did alot of thinking before I posted this so if you are a hater hate me then. If not then good we can move on!

I would like you guys to voice your opinions on the new series of lasers and what "you" want to expect from this company. There is nothing wrong with high standards but try to bare with me here.

What I am going to try and bring you all with this group buy is the following:

Better quality lasers
Cheaper prices
faster shipping (I hope to beat the public)
Better customer service (long shot eh?)
True specs and power ( I will test units on request before shipping )
Anonymous buying ( For people worried about their Privacy )
Bonus goodies? ( glasses optics special discounts )


These are just a few I hope to bring. If you would like to see anything else let me know. if you have a question for them regaurding the gb please let me know and I will ask them.

I have not contacted them yet and when I do I will be asking them all the questions you guys want.

Before you all flame me I'd like to say that lets say we gb for the new evos. these retail @ 50$ + 30$ shipping. I hope to bring you all cheaper shipping and a cheaper price. lets ball park it and say 45$ including shipping anywhere in the us. So events if your laser is crap you now have a nice host. (Just saying) Plus I will be providing your orders so you don't have to deal with wickedest lousy coustomer support.

If you all have any questions just ask.

Thanks,
Jeff
 





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Hey Jeff....

if you know all that.... what is the use....

I certainly will never buy from them with the lying
tactics they used with the Arctic... GB or not...
They have put a sour taste in my mouth that will
take a lot to get rid of...

Jerry
 

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Maybe try running a group buy on those hosts, I'd be really interested if you could make that happen.
 
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Laserbee I know where you are coming from and I cannot agree more. The reason I am doing this is to in hope to help change a crooked company. If they send up to spec lasers and quality units they will be making alot more money from these group buys than people who order off their site. They already have bulk offers on their site but I hope we can get a groupbuy price. 30$ shipping is alit and I could help them save this money if they will just keep their lasers to spec and ship in a decent time.
If we can round those rough edges I think they would be a much better company and perhaps they can learn to be better a business. I think they have scared us all with their lies, that's why I am proposing them a offer they should not be able to refuse given the cooperation of the forum.
@sponge

Many members have tried to order "just hosts". I feel my efforts will be in vein aswell.
 
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Hey Jeff....

if you know all that.... what is the use....

I certainly will never buy from them with the lying
tactics they used with the Arctic... GB or not...
They have put a sour taste in my mouth that will
take a lot to get rid of...

Jerry

I agree with lasersbee!

If you do decide to go thru with the GB, I would wait until they get caught up with their current back log.


Jeff
 
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There will not be any sort of gb until I get to speak with an actual person. Like I said in my above post is perhaps we can "cut" in front of the public. This way there will be no issues with waiting on orders. I would also be able to talk to them about the orders. They WILL be informed we wont accept being told this and that. We want the truth and nothing but the truth. That's why this is a feeler and not any sort of gb. This thread will also show them the interests in their lasers on the forum and I will be giving them the link. I'm sure they know we are a tough crowd and will not put up with them.
Hey Jeff....

if you know all that.... what is the use....

I certainly will never buy from them with the lying
tactics they used with the Arctic... GB or not...
They have put a sour taste in my mouth that will
take a lot to get rid of...

Jerry

I agree with lasersbee!

If you do decide to go thru with the GB, I would wait until they get caught up with their current back log.


Jeff
 

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I think you should talk to Wicked first to see what kinds of deals they're willing to cut, before you start asking people around here about group buys that won't happen.
 
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What the hell? Years ago, the only references to WL on this forum were in the context of regret. Now people want GBs for their stuff?

The only reason I would ever get involved in a WL group buy is if WL were selling their hosts cheap, or its lasers so cheap that I could gut them for the hosts. Even my moment of weakness attempting to buy an Arctic for $180 with free shipping (later CANCELED) was to get the host, not the cheap-ass hardware inside. I knew the shoddy workmanship of WL, and their history of shipping out products that would burn out quickly, or get confiscated by customs for their inept illegal-to-import designs. Other than hosts for DIY, WL offers nothing to me of compelling value. They can't even manage to ship working batteries, or protective goggles.

So my first question: what products do you think are even worth organizing a group buy for?

Second question: why bother? "Changing a crooked company" is not a compelling reason to have any dealings with WL. We're not here to make crooks into knights. Why work with flawed material when you can start with reputable laser shops? Wicked Lasers is a company designed first and foremost to rook ignorant people out of their money with laser marketing hype. If their prices are more reasonable now it is because WL finally realized that people shopped around and that their 5x-reasonable-pricing prices weren't attracting customers anymore.
 

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Someone lock this thread please.



























Then burn it.
 
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Sorry Jeff, but if dont think they are going to BS you, just like they do everyone else, then you are smoking crack, LOL.

Good luck bro.
 
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Ive sent them several emails already and they have not replied. I have waited and this thread has not got anyone interested. (as I already knew it would). I just thought i would try to get the lasers/hosts you guys wanted for a little cheaper than they are now without putting up with the BS and waiting. I was going to go as far as funding this GB with my own money to get lasers on hand if i had enough people interested in one type. I see now there are no takers so the next logical thing to do is request a lock/removal of this thread.

Thank you everyone for sharing your opinions at least. I will be offering my services in the near future. (not for anything like this ;) )


Thanks,
Jeff
 
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