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Old 04-18-2010, 10:57 AM #257
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Hey man, I hope that my info. saved ya some time & trouble. Glad you decided to experiment with different batteries, & to give my type of testing a shot. Hope all ends well for you & prevents an RMA & all the BS that goes with it. rob


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Wow these 473nm work really strange! If I had known that before, I wouldn´t have bought one!
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Usually after you "burn them in a bit" the problems disappear, & the laser will function normally (except for out-put fluctuations due to ambient temp. changes) just like any other laser. rob
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Rob - I was thinking EXACTLY that, for the last day or so, but was a bit afraid to say it because it sounded so odd.

My PGL-III-A/AqPro seemed to respond better after "burn-in", too. It's only been getting better with age. Really.

It seems like there really is a "burn-in" phenomenon with 473s. I wonder why.
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I tested mine out today a bit after reading about yours. I started off by warming it up in bed with me this morning. It was VERY bright at 90mW when I turned it on but then after maybe a minute it was only putting out 10mW and in tem01 . I left it on for another minute and down to 7mW. I then put it in the freezer for a little bit. The laser did 16mW steadily for a minute in mode. I then let the laser sit for a couple hours and go back room temp (70) When I turned it on in room temp it starts at 26mW and slowly climbs to 95mW. Once it reaches this point I need to follow strict duty cycles or it will overheat and slip into tem01 dropping quickly to 15-20mW. One thing is for sure about these PGL lasers. They are EXTREMELY temperature sensitive and they require careful duty cycles. The two 473nm Aquaries style lasers I have owned were way more stable and would handle staying on for a very prolonged period of time without any adverse effects. Perhaps if they pulsed the PGL blues they would operate at higher powers and wouldn't be such little sissies with temperature.
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I'm glad to read this. My CNI 473 was easily TEM01 last night but tonight is near TEM00 shooting over 150 feet. These are a spook depending on temperature.

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I don't know Luke. I'm just happy that the longer I use mine & carefully burn-it-in watching duty cycles, the better it seems to operate, with higher out-put mW's. Mine hit 86mW's today, & I didn't notice any temp. variation in the entire length of the laser. Go figure, IDK that's for sure. Just carefully experimenting.
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@ aranthya, glad you're having similar results. Looks like no RMA for you. YAAAY !!!!
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Thats, right, looks like I won't have to RMA it after all. I'm relieved. Really relieved. And get to move on to waiting for my PGL-III-532-400 in GB#9.

I think I'm actually going to go outside tonight and see what I can do with the 473 for distance.

Thanks for the help everyone, though - and the input from everyone else on 473 too.. Looks like we're figuring out a lot more about the peculiarities of duty cycle and temperature with these lasers.
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My 473nm PGL III rated at 20mW is outputting a continous around and above 50mW and has peaked at 66mW It hasnt dropped below 40mW for me, welll within and above spec. I suppose it just depends on the individual unit
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I did some more testing on mine today. The battery actually died while I was testing it. Perhaps this is why the test went so well. Here is a video of the test.
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Wow! I was expecting it to die when it went down to 12mw. Once that thing warms up it's a beast!
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