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Old 01-30-2013, 12:43 AM #897
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Default Re: CLOSED! Now Distributing ROUND 2!: THE "Skylaser" (laserBtB) groupbuy!

Just did a whole bunch of testing, on all the skylasers I have... at least until the second part of my order arrives.

Here are the results;

1. HL532 50mW - 114mW peak, fluctuates between 90-110mW, ~95mW at ~1 minute mark.
2. HL532 50mW - 135mW peak, starts off at peak and quickly drops to ~115mW, slowly loses power after that, and stays around 60mW at the 2 minute mark.
2. HL532 50mW - 134mW peak, warms up to peak in about 10 seconds, fairly stable slow drop down, still at 110mW at about 1 minute.
4. HL532 300mW - 557mW peak, IR content ~150mW, laser seems very erratic, needs more testing.

Original GB Lasers

1. HL532 300mW - 690mW peak, uneven fluctuation between 550-650mW at 550mW at 1 minute mark, ~50mW IR content.
2. HL532 150mW - 187mW peak, long warmup to peak starting from ~50mW, stable at around 160mW.

I'm very pleased with the results of the HL532 50mW lasers.

The 300mW I will test again, because it was all over the place. Recharging the batteries right now to do some more testing.

While I was at it, I decided to re-test the lasers I received in the last GB, the results are also above.

What has me concerned is, the 150mW laser I got in the original GB, used to peak at ~280-300mW. Right now it reached a much lower peak. While still on spec, this is worrying if it's degrading. I will be re-testing this laser again once batteries recharge.

The cases for two of my lasers have bad hinges. I don't care about the cases all that much, and even suggested ditching them, but still it kind of sucks.

The additional diffraction caps, and two extra plugs for the original GB were not included, I expect they are coming in the second part of the order.

I'll update again once I retest the 300mW laser.


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Oh man, I wonder what he will do for you, between the additional fee and now this your not having the best of luck. I think you should get a little something extra if you end up sending this in for replacement. And he should pay that extra shipping fee.

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What has me concerned is, the 150mW laser I got in the original GB, used to peak at ~280-300mW. Right now it reached a much lower peak. While still on spec, this is worrying if it's degrading. I will be re-testing this laser again once batteries recharge.
Degradation is no bueno, curious to see those results.
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Default Re: CLOSED! Now Distributing ROUND 2!: THE "Skylaser" (laserBtB) groupbuy!

No it's certainly no good at all.

I charged up my batteries, and more tests on both the new 300mW laser, and the 150mW from the original GB.

The 150mW, that used to consistently, quickly, peak over at least 250mW, now barely does 150mW. It was at around 130-140mW at the 1 minute mark and finally reached 151mW at the two minute mark. IR content is at about 25mW, so at this point it is underspec.

Adding insult to injury, I retested the new 300mW laser, tested it three times to make sure I'm not screwing something up. Used three different IMR batteries, all fully charged. let the laser cool for about 5-10 minutes between each test.

Each time now I'm getting a peak of about 450mW. This does not last. The laser drops over a minute to about 350-360mW. Which would still be fine, except that ~130mW of that is IR.

The only other thing I can think of, for why I got higher reading initially, is that the lasers were outside my apartment, in the entry stairwell for a long while, and it's a lot colder out there.

So the 300mW is underspec, and the 150mW is definitely degrading

Add the two broken cases, and I'm no longer a particularly happy camper.

The 150mW is still well within the 6 month warranty period. The 300mW, I suspect it just wasn't tested well before shipment.

I'll take a video during the week, or over the weekend.
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Almost now, Smeerworst

@Offroad: Whaaat? They forgot my gift?

Nah that's ok though Postal mail is good also.

Also, I'd like to mention that up until now I have no mention from DHL that I need to pay any taxes. They were already at my door once but I wasn't at home and I don't see any mention of it on my tracking page.

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@ Fredcy and Coby they forgot your 635 gift. Kevin will reship the gift via postal air mail is that ok? Takes a bit longer but you will get it eventually!
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Hey guys!

@ blord kevin sent me mail about checking the sticker in front of the aperature. I dont think this is causing it to be underspec but please post results so i can reply to kevin

@ IE let me know what you want or is really bad. I will foreward your complaint to kevin!

It is no miracle that there are more problems with laser then last GB. Last GB was way smaller. Not an excuse but i think the faster they work the more mistakes. Eventually it does not mather as i will do my best to fix all complaints!

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Infin, my HL300 also does what you described as far as fluctuations. It's all over the place. I posted my peak results and didn't say anything until I saw others test. I'll try to time out like you did.
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Ya know the all over the place readings don't really bother me much our your guy's measurements are mostly overspec. But diode degradation is a serious concern of mine, since we're supposed to get 8000hrs of 300mw+ operation on the 532mn 300mw laser. If someone could test another laser to make sure this isn't a trend. More and more I need an LMP, soon.
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Yeah skylasers HL greens never been really stable. But that is what you get when you et 500-600mW out of such a small laser. But i wonder how is degration even possible? I mean does that have to do with the crystals?

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I'll recheck my Olike Crown 500mw and see how steady it is also in comparison.
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My package arrived just now

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Had to pay €26 wich is ok.

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Got to head to work but here's what I saw.
O-like crown 500 runs over 600mw for about 40 seconds and then slowly starts to drop but was still over 500 at the 3 minute mark. It is quite stable.
The HL300 is all over the place ramping and switching and past 3 minutes was below 300 but I really need a second person to get the numbers and times. Sorry I can't be more accurate right now. Got to leave....

I know other 532s I have switch and ramp.
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Yeah skylasers HL greens never been really stable. But that is what you get when you et 500-600mW out of such a small laser. But i wonder how is degration even possible? I mean does that have to do with the crystals?

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IE said he suspected dergadation in one of his greens. I don't know how stable IR diodes are or if they degrade like some 405's.
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