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Anything like that on my order WILL negate any benefit of a GB - I already had to add nearly 8% to my purchase price for sending money overseas via pre-paid Visa.
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There is a fair chance I will receive package today. Although obviously no one is home to sign for it... so hopefully I can pick it up after work today or tomorrow.

For US, the import fees are much lower so even if they are charged, it sucks, but still better than ordering not through GB. I feel bad saying this, but hopefully it's more a european issue only. Hakzaw has used DHL for getting lasers from Jetlasers many times, and afaik there haven't been any issues.
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Ahhh yes DHL, i remember i had to pay €500 ontop of the $2898 when they came with my hercules laser at my door ^^

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Got a message on my phone today from someone at Fedx that wants some info regarding "laser radiation" in re "the laser pointers" and has a form they want me to fill out? What's the snag?

On the bright side, at least they are in L.A. and I now have a tracking number.

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The taxes are only for if you import something from outside of the EU and intend to use it inside the EU. It's like a VAT, yeah.
If customs inspectors seize our lasers, or if there is added tax to be paid, is the buyer stuck with the bill?

It is both alarming and eye opening to learn how spoiled we are in the U.S.

In the U.S., we take for granted that when a (domestic) seller promises to DELIVER an item for a negotiated price, the seller will do so. If the seller miscalculates, misquotes, or runs into unforeseen expenses, they have two choices, either refund the money or pay the difference.

As a buyer, I’ve developed the attitude it is the SELLER’s responsibility to get the package to my door. After all, if the item is lost or damaged in transit, it is they who file the insurance claim, not the buyer. These attitudes may only apply to domestic shipping.

Our European friends are accustomed to international shipping, and some of the pitfalls that befall those ordering goods across international lines. They may have a more realistic perspective.

Our Asian friends are experts, really experts at under engineering and managing expenses. I used to think the only risk I took ordering a laser product from them was they might misrepresent the product. But, it is sounding as if any additional fees and/or losses due to customs seizures befall the buyer as well.
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Got a message from Fedx on my phone today, from someone that wants some info regarding "laser radiation" in re "the laser pointers" and has a form they want me to fill out? What's the snag?

On the bright side, at least they are in L.A.

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You got snagged by people turning into scared retards whenever they hear the word radiation.

Looks like you're gonna need that form from Offroad.
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I sent teslanium the FDA file. Also i was expecting a update from kevin today with new tracking numbers but i did not get them. Also I am still waiting for the answere of the DHL fee's which i think should not be there.

These DHL issues need to be adressed fast. I hope kevin takes action for those whom had to pay fee's. Please save the invoice of the fee as a proof.

@ everybody. If a laser is taken by customs and you eventually do not get them. You get new lasers. This was the deal with kevin. Only thing i did not encounter with kevin is the fact of fee's from DHL. If i knew that i would of bashed the whole DHL thing when i first saw it in one of kevins mails.

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You're doing a commendable job on the group buy, Offroad.

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Actually it is not really Kevin fault about paying additional fees and duties. The citizens of Europe are subject to extra cost when they are importing goods from outside Europe.
If we are lucky the shipment slips thought without any cost but normally the rules are very clear on this matter. Anything above a specific value of the goods are subject to tax, duties, fees etc.
This value is different for each country in the EU.

What I don't like about DHL is that they arbitrary put a value on the cost. It can be anything from 40-60euro. If I want more specific then DHL just point to the Belgian laws which is a maze of rules and exceptions.

They literally held the lasers until you pay.
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Default Re: CLOSED! Taking payments. ROUND 2!: THE "Skylaser" (laserBtB) groupbuy!

Quick question, mine is coming today and requires a signature upon delivery but I won't be home for it. Does DHL make repeated attempts at delivery? My only concern being the facility it's coming from is hours away from me and I'd really prefer to not have to go there and pick it up.
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Default Re: CLOSED! Taking payments. ROUND 2!: THE "Skylaser" (laserBtB) groupbuy!

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Quick question, mine is coming today and requires a signature upon delivery but I won't be home for it. Does DHL make repeated attempts at delivery? My only concern being the facility it's coming from is hours away from me and I'd really prefer to not have to go there and pick it up.
Yup, you can call in, or leave a note to leave it, next time they attempt delivery.

Except for USPS, the rest, UPS, FedEx and DHL all attempt to delivery three times, than hold the package for a week or two.

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Default Re: CLOSED! Taking payments. ROUND 2!: THE "Skylaser" (laserBtB) groupbuy!

That is the only good thing I've been able to pull out of working the swing shift, like I do. My FedEx route driver usually arrives around 1-2pm, and UPS a bit earlier. I've always been home to receive. I've never had anything shipped DHL.
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My daughter said that dhl took my note and left the box so it looks like I have my first 4units. Will update when I get home.
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