Hey guys! I contacted OEM and Tony has been talking to us about a great group buy:

Some options for 445nm. (not recommending any in particular)
The lower VLT the less visible light let through. Like darker sunglasses.

» AL3 - VLT:19% - OD5+ (180-395nm), OD3+ (395-540nm)
» KTI - VLT:23% - OD7+ (190-532nm), OD7+ (750-820nm)
» KRY - VLT:10% - OD5+ (190-579nm)
» YLW - VLT:73% - OD6+ (190-450nm), OD5+ (451-460nm)
» ARG - VLT:48% - OD7+ (190-532nm)

ARG: note for 532nm, at OD7+ you may not see any dot at all.
When OD7+ is used with high powered 405nm or 445nm the dot you see is likely only from fluorescence. Most material has at least some fluorescence.

ARG: Jasonlitka posted a few pictures his 500-550mW 405nm Blu-ray viewed through a pair of ARG glasses & says he will post results the 1W 445nm WL Arctic.

Some other options that aren't certified for 445nm.

» ML7 - VLT:13% - OD5+ (190-400nm), OD2.5+ (532nm), OD1.5+ (630-655nm), OD3.7+ (795-1070nm), OD4+ (810-1064nm)

ML7: note for 445nm, these lenses are note certified for this wavelength, although they are extremely good wide broadband glasses otherwise.

Here's a link to all of their glasses.

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USER . . . . . . # FILTER. . . . FRAME STYLE CONFIRMED
-------------- . - ------------. ----------- ---------
extelon: . . . . 2 AL3 . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
CDHDC: . . . . . 1 KRY . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
Bionic-Badger: . 1 YLW . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
zcar300: . . . . 1 ARG . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
DJNY:. . . . . . 1 ARG . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
Byrnz93: . . . . 1 AL3 . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
Extrion: . . . . 1 ARG . . . . . 36. . . . . . . Y
Nekoman: . . . . 1 ARG . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
Nekoman: . . . . 1 KRY . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
FlightLevel350:. 1 ARG . . . . . 34. . . . . . . Y
designedfor1:. . 1 AL3 . . . . . 36. . . . . . . Y
designedfor1:. . 1 AL3 . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
deam_87: . . . . 1 KRY . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
moonreft:. . . . 1 AL3 . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
rev0:. . . . . . 1 AL3 . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
Lumify:. . . . . 1 AL3 . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
ICU: . . . . . . 1 YLW . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
Tech_Junkie: . . 1 ARG . . . . . 38. . . . . . . Y
ducky: . . . . . 1 DI4 . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
ducky: . . . . . 1 AL3 . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
jib77: . . . . . 1 AL3 . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
godmonkey: . . . 1 AL3 . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
avusmaximus: . . 1 YLW . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
scopeguy20:. . . 2 AL3 . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
denton808: . . . 1 ARG . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
Lane:. . . . . . 1 ARG . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
blackspirit: . . 1 ARG . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
Outlaw:. . . . . 1 AL3 . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
cexshun: . . . . 1 AL3 . . . . . 38. . . . . . . Y
vegasf6: . . . . 1 AL3 . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
LaserCo: . . . . 1 ARG . . . . . 36. . . . . . . Y
LazyBeam:. . . . 1 YLW . . . . . 35. . . . . . . Y
-------------- .-- ------------. ----------- ---------
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .34


Here's a summary of what everyone is buying:

AL3 . . .35: 14
. . . . .36: 1
. . . . .38: 1

ARG . . .34: 1
. . . . .35: 6
. . . . .36: 2
. . . . .38: 1

DI4 . . .35: 1

KRY . . .35: 3

YLW . . .35: 4


Here is some preliminary pricing:

« The people who are helping organize. »

SHIPPING: daguin
PAYMENTS: Scopeguy20

The shipment has left OEM Laser Systems and is on it's way to Daguin! Here's the tracking info: FedEx: 863799415000255

Here's a link to all of their glasses.

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Sounds good, but to be honest I think you should let a more well known and trusted member. Not trying to be mean, but you're new here, and no one knows you from a hole in the wall.

Any vets willing to take on this GB?

No offense taken at all. I completely agree! I just wanted to help out the group. I hope someone does take it over. I am going to buy several pair myself even if we can't get a GB together. Whoever takes it over, I'll send them contact info from OEM I received.

20% would be excellent! I've been planing to order a pair from OEM.
Also with 5% off for only 2 it sounds like anyone planing to order from OEM should try to grab another member & see if OEM will still offer 5%, nothing to lose.

Yep right now it looks like a great time to get a pair of top of the line goggles with discount! I hope we are able to get someone to take this over and get 25+ pair on order!

Lets indicate if we are interested in one (or more).

It seems 445nm diodes can do 1 Watt! Perhaps more.
Don't trust your eyes to non-certified cheap glasses when we can get a 20% discount!


For 445nm @ high powers (532nm & 405nm too) OD 7+ @ 190-532nm VLT:48% norm $78 ($62.60 after 20% off. Save over $15) Almost OD 8. The wrap around sunglasses style is great. Other styles at bottom of page.
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Even tho there may not quite be a leader for this GB atm, if there is enough interest someone will step up.

Maybe if someone else that has a more recognizable name on the forum re-posted this there'd be more interest.

Did you guys not see what I said in the other threads? These are TOO good. You will NOT be able to see ANY existence of the laser beam or dot at OD8. It is extreme overkill. I suggest someone actually ACQUIRE these before EVERYONE buys them so we can see if they are actually in the OD8 range or not, because if they are, then they are NO GOOD. Not being able to see the laser can be just as dangerous. Also, it would be a waste of everyone's money.

I'd still like to see my lasers, seeing at least 5mW of it would be nice.

I have a pair of cheap focalprice green shades and they COMPLETELY block my 215mW blu ray (even tested through the camera). When wearing them you see just a little yellow dot, and that's it!
Using OD8 goggles would be like playing with IR lasers.

I've pretty much decided I'm not going to get the ARG OD8+ glasses. Right now I'm looking at these:

-AL3 OD3+ AL3 - KTP, Argon, Blu Ray Protection AL3 - KTP, Argon, Blu Ray Protection [NR-AL3-EN207] - $74.80

-DIW OD3.5+ DIW - Blu Ray, Red, Yellow Protection DIW - Blu Ray, Red, Yellow Protection [NR-DIW-EN207] - $102.00

-KRY OD5+ KRY - UV, KTP, 190-579nm Protection KRY - UV, KTP, 190-579nm Protection [NR-KRY-00FDA] - $98.60

-ELX OD5+ ELX - YAG, Harmonics, 671nm Protection ELX Laser Protective Eyewear [NR-ELX-EN207] - $136.00

The ELX lenses are kind of expensive... but I like how they cover a huge range.

What are your impressions on those 4?

I'd go with the KRY glasses, OD5 is perfect for these 445nm

I added the DIW set after you posted... OD3.5 good... or you'd still look at OD5?

Well most of us are looking for good 445nm glasses. The DIW are only OD1 at 445nm

Oh right... my bad! I saw the range wrong. I am looking for a 445nm set also. Scratch that one.

I'd be interested in a KRY pair. People should also consider buying an ML7, as they're great all-purpose goggles, covering green and 405nm, filters IR, and can even be used for lower powered red.

Also see if someone like scopeguy or amkdeath can help you with the GB (not to volunteer them or anything of course).

so.... are we going to do this?

I've got a set of ARG. I can see the focused point from my 400mA 405nm unless there is direct sunlight on the same spot.

Given that the eyes are more sensitive to 445nm than 405nm, these new diodes should have a very visible point unless they are poorly focused. I've got a 1W on order from WL, I'll post back with results when they ship it.

I would like to get in on this for a pair of KRY - UV, KTP, 190-579nm in either the style 34 or 35.

But I would also like to see how these WL Spyder III Pro Arctics perform. If it turns out it's of poor quality and we end up sending a lot of them back I'd hate to get stuck with a pair of these.

With that said I expect these things to rock so if we have to order the glasses soon and you guys end up needing the extra person to bump you up to the next discount, shoot me a mail. I'm new here so I don't know who usually handles these group buys or who's trustworthy.

It's 445nm, even with 532nm it's easy enough work with safety glasses that block everything because of fluerescence. Yes, you won't see blue, but pretty much like 405nm a lot of things are fluorescent, so you'll still know where the beam is.

I'd be interested in some KRY's. - Corbin

Not to throw a wrench in a GB, but I can sell units from NOIR NoIR LaserShields: Laser safety goggles and laser glasses for all laser applications. Laser safety glasses, eye protection and laser windows from the manufacturer
however, I don't know how much off of list I can go.
Likely about 30%.
I want to check with them, as they have some low cost units that may come in at an excellent price.
Have to wait until next week.
Units there are $60 to about $130 retail.
Will
ebay: LASERS4u
Creative Technology Lasers - Your source for diode lasers and laser modules at green, red and other wavelengths.

LaserShields does have a nice selection.
Didn't look at them for 445nm before. They have some good options with nice high %VLT.
Just looking quick, I like the 73% VLT on the YLW 190-450 OD6+ $130
I'm interested in some nice ones for 980nm too.

Thanks for letting us know! Please do update us when you get your WL Arctic.

I know someone mentioned a material that has no fluorescence @ 405nm. Was a natural material IIRC. Anyone know of it or something else?

I agree with BIONIC-BADGER. My ML-7's are great. No fumbling around changing goggles for different lasers. One set covers them all, & as he said, even IR.

Eh, actually, they're a lot brighter than I mentioned. I just took the front of the laser apart and it looks like there was a little crap on the front of the diode that was blocking part of the light (looks like teflon tape from the lens that is now completely charred).

Through the ARG the beam spot is now clearly visible on matte BLACK, even when diffuse. You cannot see the beam though. I don't have any way to make smoke to see if that makes a difference.