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I will update it in a few hours thanks for the great idea
hey no problem, from what i have read, GB's can either go smooth and great or have some snags. just want to make everything go smooth, especially if im saving up for the rifle when the laser bug gets you, its BAD!!!! i have my eye on literally 4-6 lasers right now.....


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It DOES wear off, eventually, or when you find yourself homeless and sleeping on a park bench. But even then...
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I don't see a problem with this. There are several, including myself, willing to help on reshipments inside the US.
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Soooo I am going to take the plunge and go for the LCZR 300mw if you don't mind can you swap out the cyber for me Also if a US middle man is needed i will volunteer and I can retest the lasers on my LPM for whoever wants it at no charge. There are others in the US buying that have been here longer than me so if they want to then they should be the middleman.
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Okay

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* cheech226 - LZCR - 300mW
* mhemling33 LZCR - 300mW
* daawood123 Cyber - 100mW
* bigbrtoher88 Cyber - 100mW
* jArdi LZCR - 300mW - On Hold
* bloompyle LZCR - 300mW
* Joshwaa - Cyber - 100mW
* gecko991 - LZCR - 300mW
* LuxorLasers747 LZCR - 200mW

About a middleman in the US. When we will have 20 orders .. I will check the shipping prices again ... And then I will contact you guys

I will update the list and add locations later

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I have just sent him a mail about the LZTN. I will probably get an answer in a few hours... Stay tuned for more info
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Sorry I am not going to ruin your sale. However I think you have very serious misleading in your GB. You got lasers from unknown place that is similar to what lazerer selling. And you assume that they are the same before LPM them and comparing the structure. Most Chinese seller are selling laser with similar host. I have ever seen a 8000mW cyber and “LZCR” host laser for sale at Warnlasers.

Seem to me you are using lazerer reputation to make your GB go more easily and using lazerer product page to sell a unknown product with unknown spec. IMO you should not make your GB related to lazerer unless you are directly import them from lazerer.
I can understand many people have reservations.

None of what you are proposing to buy comes from or has anything to do with Laserer nor his assurances/testing or support.

I would be interested in perhaps a few pieces but only if I knew who the suppiler was and was able to check them out. I mean really you are asking people to lay out money to a guy in the middle of Israel for a product from an unnamed mystery source in China with substancial and/or double shipping costs and so on without mentioning anything about what if a piece is not received or up to spec, or is defective---who is going to make it right or refund and so on?
You are going to handle all the money so it is on your head and out of your pocket what happens and what recourse do people have if you are in Israel, anyway unless they are also in Israel?

Thier should be no problem in letting everyone know who the actual supplier is if everything is on the up and up. Without knowing the actual source or as you say the manufacturer how are people supposed to judge whether to buy or not---are you going to guarantee and warranty every aspect and the money for same personally?

How about a straight story about who the supplier, manufacturer or trading company is. Then people will have a basis upon which to consider if they trust that company and it products enough to want to buy. It is not just you that people need confidence in---they are buying what from whom using you as a GB middle man/agent?

Without some answers it is a slippery slope ---when the guy quoted asked-you said the lasers are coming from the manufacturer---that is untimately true of all manufacturered goods isn't--is a nonanswer. What manufacturer?

Who are these lasers lcoming from and who is going to cover all contingencies such as returns of defective or poor quality or underspec lasers, warranty, guarantee of meeting spec or free replacement, guarentee of delivery of item ordered and paid for regardless of what customs does or does not do, refunds or exchanges etc.? I think these are fair questions to ask.

Lastly what are the real prices for item, shipping to USA and PP fee?

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These are very fair questions feel free to ask

To be honest , I don't really want to give the supplier out.

It took a long time to find him .. So ... I might use him for starting my own store

About refunds , goods quality etc ... I will try to be responsible for it however I am limited too ... I will ask him about defects and refunds

He actually told me that he will check every laser before shipment. But , I will confirm it again. He also offers To send pictures of each Lpm test for $5 extra.

The goods them self will be delivered to me by Dhl. I think it is the best option. He will also split it to 4 parcels because of customs.

As I said before , I will get my lasers from him very soon. And I will send them to someone in the US for a check. I have bought them before I told him about this GB.

I'm just trying to help here if you guys want to back off ... It is fine by me

I understand your concerns and I will try to do my best in order to get it right

Also these are the real prices for each item. I am willing to even give some one , with high rep , my password and mail so you can be sure of that


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I can understand many people have reservations.

None of what you are proposing to buy comes from or has anything to do with Laserer nor his assurances/testing or support.

I would be interested in perhaps a few pieces but only if I knew who the suppiler was and was able to check them out. I mean really you are asking people to lay out money to a guy in the middle of Israel for a product from an unnamed mystery source in China with substancial and/or double shipping costs and so on without mentioning anything about what if a piece is not received or up to spec, or is defective---who is going to make it right or refund and so on?
You are going to handle all the money so it is on your head and out of your pocket what happens and what recourse do people have if you are in Israel, anyway unless they are also in Israel?

Thier should be no problem in letting everyone know who the actual supplier is if everything is on the up and up. Without knowing the actual source or as you say the manufacturer how are people supposed to judge whether to buy or not---are you going to guarantee and warranty every aspect and the money for same personally?

How about a straight story about who the supplier, manufacturer or trading company is. Then people will have a basis upon which to consider if they trust that company and it products enough to want to buy. It is not just you that people need confidence in---they are buying what from whom using you as a GB middle man/agent?

Without some answers it is a slippery slope ---when the guy quoted asked-you said the lasers are coming from the manufacturer---that is untimately true of all manufacturered goods isn't--is a nonanswer. What manufacturer?

Who are these lasers lcoming from and who is going to cover all contingencies such as returns of defective or poor quality or underspec lasers, warranty, guarantee of meeting spec or free replacement, guarentee of delivery of item ordered and paid for regardless of what customs does or does not do, refunds or exchanges etc.? I think these are fair questions to ask.

Lastly what are the real prices for item, shipping to USA and PP fee?
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how much do you think shipping back would be? also myself and others are probably more worried about the high power green as those one are usally the ones you have to worry about. 100mW really isn't anything i can get modules that put out 100mW from fasttect for $10, i recently did a build in a C6 then S4 thats in my sig and have more on the way, it's the 200+ like the LZCR that i'm interested in as long as it's in spec.
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how much do you think shipping back would be? also myself and others are probably more worried about the high power green as those one are usally the ones you have to worry about. 100mW really isn't anything i can get modules that put out 100mW from fasttect for $10, i recently did a build in a C6 then S4 thats in my sig and have more on the way, it's the 200+ like the LZCR that i'm interested in as long as it's in spec.
I will pay for back shipping also

About the LZCR ... I don't really have one. Didn't purchase one either so ... can't help you guys with it.

I will ask him for a lpm test for one of their LZCR lasers. I really think that you guys should get these $5 lpm test pictures. It will force him to send overspec lasers and it will help us confirm that everything is good.

Let me get an answer first. He will probably answer on monday. They don't work on sunday there ...

Lets don't rush. We got time I will asl him everything before doing anything stupid.

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well you cant send what you don't have. but i will definatly test any laser you want to send to me. by then i should have gotten my ARGmeter so i'll be able to do a LPM Graph as well as a video of it being tested for everyone to check out. also no need to send a battery as i have many panasonic 18650's for testing.
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well you cant send what you don't have. but i will definatly test any laser you want to send to me. by then i should have gotten my ARGmeter so i'll be able to do a LPM Graph as well as a video of it being tested for everyone to check out. also no need to send a battery as i have many panasonic 18650's for testing.
Okay great

Thanks for your help man !
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I will ask him for a lpm test for one of their LZCR lasers. I really think that you guys should get these $5 lpm test pictures. It will force him to send overspec lasers and it will help us confirm that everything is good.
There must be a reason why they raised the LPM chart costs from $2 to $5
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