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Old 02-08-2012, 01:37 PM #1
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Default POSSIBLE 405nm laser phototerapy. LABIAL HERPES?

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Our new laser needle phototerapy is based on the recent results of the modern dermatological reserch. The basic principle of our therapy is to irradiate the affected skin areas simultaneously with blue and red laserneedle radiation of high energy density.10 The effects of the red laser radiation in the skin well known, the cell energy (ATP synthesis), the microciculation of blood and lymph and the oxygen metabolism are improved during the non-specific irradiation of the skin tissue. Therefore, the red laser light improves in general the regeneration capability of the skin tissue.

The blue laserneedle radiation (405 nm) however, effects specifically. At sufficient energy densities, immunological and anti- bacteriological effects are induced. The immunological effects are the inhibition and reduction of Langerhans cells and IgE+Langerhans cells, the inhibition of dermal mast cells and the inhibition and reduction of T-Lymphocytes. The activity and number of T-lymphocytes, which are infiltrated in the skin is influenced and decreased directly by the 405 nm radiation. A decrease of bcl-2 proteines after radiation, which acts as apoptosis inhibitor, was reported in the literature.

From the bacteriological point of view, the 405 nm irradiation has an highly efficient eliminating effect on porphyrines- based bacteria, like Proprionibakterium acne, Staphylococcus aureaus, and Pseudomonas aeruginosa.

Due to their specific immunological and anti-bacteriological effects, the 405 nm laserneedle radiation is the optimum choice to treat the atopic dermatitis, psoriasis, vitiligo and acne vulgaris. The immunological and bacteriological pathogenesis of these indications is quite similar.

In contrast to the established UVA1 phototherapy, the treatment with 405 nm laserneedle irradiation is complete UV- free ,e.g. all possible carcinogenic risks are eliminated ! In particular for the treatment of children, the 405 nm radiation is safe, side-effect free and free of any risks, even for longer treatment times!

i come from ITALY.....
and in the italian language i found that herpes labial could be fighted with near UV light.
maybe can i try.. to use my 80mw violet laser.... on my ACTUAL labial herpes ??????


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Default Re: POSSIBLE 405nm laser phototerapy. LABIAL HERPES?

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i come from ITALY.....
and in the italian language i found that herpes labial could be fighted with near UV light.
maybe can i try.. to use my 80mw violet laser.... on my ACTUAL labial herpes ??????
Are you a certified Doctor....

If not.... I would suggest that you go see one....


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Default Re: POSSIBLE 405nm laser phototerapy. LABIAL HERPES?

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Herpes labialis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cold Sores.....


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To treat the disease you have to point your laser to your .... ? Must be a painful treatment.
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Default Re: POSSIBLE 405nm laser phototerapy. LABIAL HERPES?

Something about irradiating parts of my mouth with wavelengths close to the UV spectrum doesn't seem worth the risk--or at least something to try without a doctor's supervision. You might try some low-level laser therapy with some lasers in the red spectrum. Supposedly that stimulates healing and pain relief. I've used DIY LLLT on canker sores (which are by no means the same as herpetic sores), though I can't attest to whether it worked or not (like most canker sore remedies).
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Regardless of which set of lips is to be treated, i guess the question fundamentally boils down to what 405 nm light does to the herpes virus, and what adverse effects it may have.

I reckon this would be difficult to study by just seeing what happens after the treatment: cold sores on the facial lips usually disappear because the immune system deals with them. Using some kind of treatment (like antiviral cream) may speed that process up to some degree, but you need to do a fairly large placebo controlled study to prove that.

Also, it would be important to look at what you are actually doing: if the treatment reduces the immune response, the symptoms may appear to lessen, but the virus itself is allowed to thrive. This could be problematic as herpes can cause more that just cold sores in the face - effects like paralysis are not that common, but they can occur, and would probably be more likely to if you reduce the immune response.
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Might work, plus 405nm LEDs are easy to get hold of.

there was a discussion about using NIR LEDs as well, NASA discovered this effect.

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