Newly developed 405-diode (12x) 450mW CW

I think I heard that the Blu-ray disc's a going to be capable of 200GB's of data...This is what there using for 100GB's...I wonder what 200GB's would look like. ;D

--hydro15

If in the future there will be a group buys I'm interested, (If the price is good, 50 - 70 $).
Maybe to obtain 400 - 450 mW of output we have to give it more than 500 mW, then our friend drLava has to re-project his Flexdrive.
And perhaps this diode needs a big heatsink to dissipate all heat made by this high output power, specially if it's ran in CW mode, then will be ok a MXDL host or a "Pocket Pal" host.

daguin said:

[quote author=robjdixon link=1225728834/0#14 date=1226512127]Why are 12X blu rays 450mW, but 12x reds are only like 100mW?

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They have virtually nothing to do with one another (or even really their mW output).  The ?X designation is related to the original writing speed for EACH diode type.  A 2X writes twice as fast as the original speed.  A 6X writes 6 times faster. (etc.) Since the different types of diodes had different original writing speeds the numbers between them have no comparison.  The numbers only have value when comparing the writing speed of the same type of diode.

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Thanks dave

well, were getting there, heres an 8x burner.
so, are we going to have an 8x club now?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827131060

gregorio87 said:

If in the future there will be a group buys I'm interested, (If the price is good, 50 - 70 $).
Maybe to obtain 400 - 450 mW of output we have to give it more than 500 mW, then our friend drLava has to re-project his Flexdrive.
And perhaps this diode needs a big heatsink to dissipate all heat made by this high output power, specially if it's ran in CW mode, then will be ok a MXDL host or a "Pocket Pal" host.

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50-70$??? that would be a killer price for a 450mw RED diode

thebucketmouse said:

50-70$??? that would be a killer price for a 450mw RED diode

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Why you say "red diode"? And what do you think that is a right price for a 405nm 450mW LD?

gregorio87 said:

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50-70$??? that would be a killer price for a 450mw RED diode

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Why you say "red diode"? And what do you think that is a right price for a 405nm 450mW LD?
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What I think he means is that he thinks 50-70$ for a 450mW blu-ray diode is crazy because RIGHT NOW we can't even get 450mW reds for that that price.

Tech moves quite fast and I don't think we could even imagine how fast it really is.
Back when there were only 803T's (at least if you didn't want to pay 250-350$) I ranted that by the time the 803T's run out there was going to be a better stronger diode. Nobody really thought thats what was going to happen (as far as I could see).
Now that the 6x's are out there is most likely going to be a 8x club.

I would like to know what kind of red diodes there are going to be in the 12x's though. :

--hydro15

hydrogenman15 said:

What I think he means is that he thinks 50-70$ for a 450mW blu-ray diode is crazy because RIGHT NOW we can't even get 450mW reds for that that price.....
--hydro15

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Yes, He is right, but I hope that if the 12X technology will come in our life, the price of these diodes can be drop down, because of they development.

yeah you guys are right, I was trying to say that 450mW of 405nm isnt going to be cheap (or even possible?) for a while. but i hope it eventually comes along, the only question is if blu ray burners will ever need that much power? red burner diodes were never really developed to be that powerful.

thebucketmouse said:

yeah you guys are right, I was trying to say that 450mW of 405nm isnt going to be cheap (or even possible?) for a while. but i hope it eventually comes along, the only question is if blu ray burners will ever need that much power? red burner diodes were never really developed to be that powerful.

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I think you might be surprised. LOL @ the 12x GB's. HOWEVER, I still think they should test them.

--hydro15

i hope so too, i think blu ray will move to having more layers on a single disc than dvd ever had, which (i think) will require a powerful diode.

hydrogenman15 said:

[quote author=thebucketmouse link=1225728834/20#24 date=1226959523]yeah you guys are right, I was trying to say that 450mW of 405nm isnt going to be cheap (or even possible?) for a while. but i hope it eventually comes along, the only question is if blu ray burners will ever need that much power? red burner diodes were never really developed to be that powerful.

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I think you might be surprised. LOL @ the 12x GB's. HOWEVER, I still think they should test them.

--hydro15
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This might not be relivant to the thread, but what's the deal with the holigram discs that they are developing? It's a high powered red and green right. So in the future we can expect 532nm diodes? That's the next big thing?

The next few years it's just higher powered blurays and green diodes?

simplysped2 said:

This might not be relivant to the thread, but what's the deal with the holigram discs that they are developing? It's a high powered red and green right. So in the future we can expect 532nm diodes? That's the next big thing?

The next few years it's just higher powered blurays and green diodes?

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Yep, the next steps are increasing violet power, increasing blue power, and making green, then making green more powerful as well.  Blue and green and sought after for displays and projectors, to accompany the red diodes that are already ubiquitous and powerful.  There are a lot of efforts going on now aimed at green diodes and more powerful blue diodes, as well as some over-arching technologies that will improve all of the gallium nitride diodes (violet, blue, and green), the chief overarching technologies being nonpolar gallium nitride and homogeneous substrates.  Nonpolar GaN is what everyone is hoping will allow for green laser diodes to even be manufactured, and homogeneous substrates will allow for much easier, faster, and better manufacturing of nonpolar and other gallium nitride.

Basically, everything made now in the violet-blue regime is on polar gallium nitride, which sets the ceiling for the theoretical maximum performance at a certain level. By going to nonpolar or semipolar gallium nitride, that ceiling gets moved up by some margin, and all the devices can be made much better. Same with better/homogeneous substrates, all the devices can be made to function better than the maximum currently possible.

thebucketmouse said:

i hope so too, i think blu ray will move to having more layers on a single disc than dvd ever had, which (i think) will require a powerful diode.

[quote author=hydrogenman15 link=1225728834/20#25 date=1226995509][quote author=thebucketmouse link=1225728834/20#24 date=1226959523]yeah you guys are right, I was trying to say that 450mW of 405nm isnt going to be cheap (or even possible?) for a while. but i hope it eventually comes along, the only question is if blu ray burners will ever need that much power? red burner diodes were never really developed to be that powerful.

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I think you might be surprised. LOL @ the 12x GB's. HOWEVER, I still think they should test them.

--hydro15
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I think heard that they could go all the way up to 200GB's and we are at 100GB's...Thats going to be a serious diode. I already said that but whatever. The reader diodes may also have to be stronger too but I don't know much about it.

--hydro15

could you imagine?

the HYPERMEGA 450mW DILDA on DX
and the OMGICANTBELIEVEITSNOT473NM 450mW bluray!



can't wait!!

Niko said:

could you imagine?

the HYPERMEGA 450mW DILDA on DX
and the OMGICANTBELIEVEITSNOT473NM 450mW bluray!



can't wait!!

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and it would cost just like the red dilda we have now. it'd still take quite a few years for that to happen though.