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Encap why did you bother to quote me if you were going to change what is said to something I didn't say in the quote ?

Your quote shows me saying "I not sure you understand the ..... phenomena."

But what I actually said was "I not sure you understand the weight a "theory" holds over a "law" in science ?"

If you change what I really said it's not a quote anymore, is it ?

And why are you answering a question I really didn't ask before you changed what I asked ?
I didn't change anything. I put the first 6 words, some dots, then the last word of your post---meaning everything you posted from first word to last without wasting space with the whole nine yards of it. Maybe I should have put: "I ... phenomena" or perhaps some other way you would approve of.

Of course I answered and very clearly saying I do understand but that I was using common everyday language to indicate the LIGO "detection" of gravity waves is not necessarily a fact just a prediction that it is or will be a considered fact at the end of the day. Maybe I was not being clear enough about it.
There are currently several other possible explainations offered by other parties of what the initial and subsequent 2 "detections" the LIGO "detectors" detected could be other than gravity waves. Might be the reason the 3 main LIGO guys were not awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics 2016 which media hype predicted had to be a shoe in.

In any case, it is just my personal opinion at the moment based on what I have read about the subject.



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I'm not in any way irritated, I'm just trying to understand why someone would quote me and then change what I said and then answer what I didn't ask ?
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I didn't change anything. I put the first 6 words, xome dots then the last word.
I meant by that everything you posted from first word to last without wasting space with the whole nine yards of it.
Maybe I should have put: "I ... phenomena" or perhaps some other way you would approve of.

Of course I answered and very clearly saying I do understand but that was using common evryday language to indicate the LIGO "detection" of gravity waves is not necessarily a fact just a prediction that it is or will be a considered fact at the end of the day.
At there are several other possible explainations offered by other parties for the initial and subsequent 2 "detections" the LIGO "detectors" detected which could be the reason the 3 main LIGO guy were not awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics 2016 as much media hype predicted ahd to be a shoe in.
Maybe I was not clear enough.
In any case it is just my opinion at the moment
But you didn't say "not necessarily a fact just a prediction" you said "not a law, it is still a theory" and that why I said "I'm not sure you understand the weight a "theory" holds over a "law" in science ?" but I kind of see what you were going for now, I think ? You could have just quoted the whole question "I'm not sure you understand the weight a "theory" holds over a "law" in science ?" and just address the only question or clarification I had and left everything else out but it's not a big deal.........

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No I collect them and work on them, I got most of mine off ebay and did any of work needed on them myself.......

And "For the nasty comment you left me, troll like" as if you didn't do it to me first and accuse me of being a troll while doing it just because of my member name and avatar and then accuse me of being a troll again in your latest, Please........

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And "For the nasty comment you left me, troll like" as if you didn't do it to me first and accuse me of being a troll while doing it just because of my member name and avatar and then accuse me of being a troll again in your latest, Please........
I responded to your negging me with that message, be a good forum member and I will make it up in spades.

I did neg you twice now because of the same attitude you are showing here again now, that first neg was removed for your benefit, along with your earlier argumentative posts, but you then continued with the same attitude so I put another one down. As I said, stop this troll like behavior and I will turn the negs into greens. I am still leaning towards the idea you are not a sincere member, but one of many member ID's being used to stir up problems.

OK, I know your first impulse is to write back something either in your defense or to counter what I am writing in one way or another, don't do that, just take it for my opinion and move on posting about lasers and I will forget I ever thought that and start giving you +reps after your first +100 rep points.

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I responded to your negging me with that message, be a good forum member and I will make it up in spades.

I did neg you twice now because of the same attitude you are showing here again now, that first neg was removed for your benefit, along with your earlier argumentative posts, but you then continued with the same attitude so I put another one down. As I said, stop this troll like behavior and I will turn the negs into greens. I am still leaning towards the idea you are not a sincere member, but one of many member ID's being used to stir up problems.

OK, I know your first impulse is to write back something either in your defense or to counter what I am writing in one way or another, don't do that, just take it for my opinion and move on posting about lasers and I will forget I ever thought that and start giving you +reps after your first +100 rep points.

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And I did the same to the whole you accusing me of being a troll just because of my member name and avatar message you negged me with first right after I had joined which started that exchange in the first place.

Really I've been a good forum member to anyone who has been a good forum member to me from day one with my very first post.

And then you laid in to me about some nonsense that you knew for sure I was just a troll which I'm not ! but I'm more than willing to start over and let go of anything in the past if you will do the same and stop calling me a troll......

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And I did the same to the whole you accusing me of being a troll just because of my member name and avatar message you negged me with first right after I had joined which started that exchange in the first place.

Really I've been a good forum member to anyone who has been a good forum member to me from day one with my very first post.

And then you laid in to me about some nonsense that you knew for sure I was just a troll which I'm not ! but I'm more than willing to start over and let go of anything in the past if you will do the same and stop calling me a troll......

Best to just drop it and move on...
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So far I see no joy from you, why are you here? I asked you to prove to me you were not here to ruffle feathers and what do you do? Ruffle feathers, now I have to spend 15 minutes putting them all back into place! OK, what can we help you with, you said you came here because you like lasers, what can we do for you to help you in your hobby? This thread is getting messed up, lets move it to another thread for that.
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"So far I see no joy from you" Really ? So your just going to ignore the thread I started to share the pictures with everybody showing the disassembly of my new Thor M II that I had just bought ?

Or the nice exchange I had with Razako when I was asking questions about blue laser's and shortly after that Razako expressed his concerns that I should not be getting the neg treatment from a members that I was.

Or my posts asking Lifetime17 about his new Vietnam Era 445nm /9mm field light build, and I posted all the things I liked about it.

And there were more examples of "yes joy" (friendly) exchanges I had with other members but they were all removed for some unconceivable reason ?

Is that the "no joy" your referring ? The only "ruffle feathers" were yours when I took exception with you claiming I must be a troll because of all things my user name & avatar ! Just how you can tell someone must be a troll from only their user name & avatar to this day I have no idea but you claimed that you could none the less ?

All the interactions I've had with others (besides yourself) here have been friendly, informative, and enjoyable so I when you speak of "ruffle feathers" I assume you must be strictly speaking about yourself ?

You'll have to excuse me but when I have any more questions (and I will) I'll be asking Razako but thanks for asking.

I think that covers everything for me, Move on I shall........

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See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil is much easier if you just do what I did and put me on your ignore list:





All trolls and previously banned members are on my I-list, they don't bother me in the least now. Behave, rack up some posts and I will restore you in three months, till then, later! Go fix some watches

I suggest other members do the same if you are having a tough time with a new member, it is a trolls nightmare to be filtered out. Drives them bananas...
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Good ! Now maybe you'll go away and leave me alone because I can definitely do without your nonsense......
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Thanks for coming on here to specifically to warn us Bobbee. I'll PM one of the Moderators about this.
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I posted this for the gee wiz isn't that cool factor, not to start an argument. From now on I will be more circumspect if a topic as innocuous as this can elicit negative comments. Good grief.
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