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I did not say anything you said was untrue, I said that how I read it made it seem untrue to me. *My interpretation of your writing was untrue, that's all. *We both agree on what happens.

And really, will you just let it drop now? *You've said your piece, I've said mine. *We disagreed in wording, but it's clear we both know what's going on, is it not? *I know that I know what I'm talking about, and you clearly know that you know what you're talking about. *You seem to just keep wanting to degrade me. *It seems that you've just made up your mind that I'm an idiot and you won't stop until you somehow force or trick me into admitting that I've been lying and wrong all along. *Do you want me to apologize or something? *Ok, I'm sorry I misread your post, and that this misinterpretation lead to a prolonged disagreement over physics, even though we were apparently just saying the same thing in different ways. *

I could reply again to your points, I already know how to answer all of them without looking anything up, but it's getting childish. *You seem to be taking this VERY personally, since you've insulted my intelligence multiple times now, while I have tried not to insult you in any way (unless you were particularly offended by my criticism of your wording as "sloppy". *if that is the case, then I apologize.). *You insult me the first time, so I play it off with sarcasm. *But really, this is getting ridiculous. *What have I done to offend you so personally that you deem it necessary to attack me and defend yourself so vehemently?

I understand and understood everything that I have written here, I have not intentionally mislead or lied in anyway. *I have, in general, a good understand of physics (not great though, I was not a physics major or anything like that), and I know some things that people here don't, just as some people here know things that I do not know. *I know what I'm talking about, I can read just fine, and I can assure you my academic career will be just fine as well, as long as people still want lasers and LEDs. *Also, my reputation on this forum will survive this test as well, seeing as how multiple others have already acknowledged that they understood and agreed with what I was writing. *And since I'm not trying to "get away with anything here", I'm not too worried about it either way.


As for the cursing, I'm not certain how many kids read this forum, but I know it to be multiple. *I believe (not certain) I've seen a poster here refer to themselves as being 11 years old, and I know there are multiple posters in the 13 to 14 year old range. *And I know perfectly well what gets said on TV, in music, and in lots of other places in the world. *But even besides the entire "think of the children" point, this forum, as a whole, has chosen to be a place where cursing is not practiced or considered appropriate (as witnessed by how there is almost no cursing to be found on it, anywhere). *And since when does something being appropriate in some places make it appropriate in others? *I would hate for what happens on some forums to be thought of as ok on other forums, simply because "it's ok in other places". *So please, respect the forum and it's rules/norms. *Thank you.


ETA: On another scanning read-through, some of my previous sarcasm does seem to be more abrasive and insulting than I meant for it to sound. I guess that's what I get for posting in the heat of the moment. But I did not mean to insult or demean you, so I apologize if I did do so. I don't imagine you were much offended, but I still feel the need to apologize. I didn't like being insulted, and I shouldn't have done the same to you.


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Jayrob,
Buddy you can can get energy out of a magnet, Google Bedini school girl motor.
Here how it works:
Magnets on a spinning wheel all N pole pass by a tri-fillar coil. 1st coil triggers a transistor to pulse current from 1st battery through the second coil, then, energy is rectified in the 3rd coil sends pulse to a battery in charge mode only. You can't use a battery while you're charging it.
so you need two batterys. The result are about a COP of 10 at least.

I think the moving magnetic field coherts energy from space/time. Bedini has alot of patients.

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http://www.newtonphysics.on.ca/hydrogen/

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H is hard to see.
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Jayrob,
Buddy you can can get energy out of a magnet, Google Bedini school girl motor.
Here how it works:
Magnets on a spinning wheel all N pole pass by a tri-fillar coil. 1st coil triggers a transistor to pulse current from 1st battery through the second coil, then, energy is rectified in the 3rd coil sends pulse to a battery in charge mode only. You can't use a battery while you're charging it.
so you need two batterys. The result are about a COP of 10 at least.

I think the moving magnetic field coherts energy from space/time. Bedini has alot of patients.

I'll mail you my Bedini DVD if U promise to mail it back. PM me

Back to water:
Check this out.
http://www.newtonphysics.on.ca/hydrogen/

Pullbang, your post take the prize for most complicated theory posted by anyone I have ever read here. You're going to graduate
up there in the Einstein league so grow a nice beard and stick your tongue out and put your thumbs in your ears and maybee they put your picture next to his. You know those books! 8-)

H is hard to see.

Have you ever done it and used it to make energy? I think you can use a battery while your charging it because thats exactly what cars do.

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Reading the philoso-science in this thread meakes my head hurt


Thank you pullbangdead for arguing the side of empirical findings. I would not have the patience...

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Jayrob,
Buddy you can can get energy out of a magnet, Google Bedini school girl motor.
Here how it works:
Magnets on a spinning wheel all N pole pass by a tri-fillar coil. 1st coil triggers a transistor to pulse current from 1st battery through the second coil, then, energy is rectified in the 3rd coil sends pulse *to a battery in charge mode only. You can't use a battery while you're charging it.
so you need two batterys. The result are about a COP of 10 at least.

I think the moving magnetic field coherts energy from space/time. Bedini has alot of patients.

I'll mail you my Bedini DVD if U promise to mail it back. PM me

Back to water:
Check this out.
http://www.newtonphysics.on.ca/hydrogen/

Pullbang, your post take the prize for most complicated theory posted by anyone I have ever read here. You're going to graduate
up there in the Einstein league so grow a nice beard and stick your tongue out and put your thumbs in your ears and maybee they put your picture next to his. You know those books! 8-)

H is hard to see.
Ok, so I have a theory as to how someone could mistake the Bedini motor and think that it was putting out more then you put in.

So say you put in 1 amp from a 12v battery, then you measure the voltage going out WITHOUT a load and its 30 volts
Then you try to measure the current when its going into the battery and its
990ma's.

You then do the math and multiply .990 x 30 and you get 29.7 watts and fail to realize that the voltage drops when theres a load. :P

Measure the voltage and the amps when theres a load and you can prove it works.

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[quote author=Laserrod link=1218511135/40#49 date=1224827797]Jayrob,
Buddy you can can get energy out of a magnet, Google Bedini school girl motor.
Here how it works:
Magnets on a spinning wheel all N pole pass by a tri-fillar coil. 1st coil triggers a transistor to pulse current from 1st battery through the second coil, then, energy is rectified in the 3rd coil sends pulse to a battery in charge mode only. You can't use a battery while you're charging it.
so you need two batterys. The result are about a COP of 10 at least.

I think the moving magnetic field coherts energy from space/time. Bedini has alot of patients.

I'll mail you my Bedini DVD if U promise to mail it back. PM me

Back to water:
Check this out.
http://www.newtonphysics.on.ca/hydrogen/

Pullbang, your post take the prize for most complicated theory posted by anyone I have ever read here. You're going to graduate
up there in the Einstein league so grow a nice beard and stick your tongue out and put your thumbs in your ears and maybee they put your picture next to his. You know those books! 8-)

H is hard to see.

Have you ever done it and used it to make energy? I think you can use a battery while your charging it because thats exactly what cars do.

--hydro15
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A car doesn't use the battery while the battery charges, the battery is only used to start the engine, or power any devices on that car while the engine is not running. If you start a car you can quite easily take the battery out of it and it will still run, along with all other functions such as the lights, radio, power stearing etc. As soon as that engine is started, everything else that involves electricity including the charging of the battery gets powered by the alternator.

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Well, i remember that, in the early trials for obtain coherent light from different materials, Russian scentists made lase a lot of material, including vodka (), so i suppose that, if you pump enough energy in the right form, you can make a laser from almost anything .....
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I dunno if this has been said before... this thread is incredibly long.

Any one seen the inside of a necular reactor core, when they are removing the fuel rods? Basically what happenes is when the fuel rods undergo transmutation three main particles are produced, BR, KR and neutrons. In a necular reactor these particles are flying around at extremely high speeds, in order to conduct a nuclear reaction neutrons must be slowed in order to be captured by a uranium nucleus. To slow the neutron down they use a moderator, in this case heavy water. When the neutrons and other particles are released at high speed they cause a "sonic-boom" in the heavy water, simular to the way aircraft make a sonic-boom in air. This sonic boom is extremely energetic, so instead of creating sound it produces light. The only times you can see this light is when they are replacing or moving fuel rods which are still undergoing transmutation. Here are some pretty pics of the "sonic-boom"!!





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I've got to see one of those "sonic booms" myself, it'd be pretty awesome.

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Makes you want to jump in...

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Jump into a nuclear reactor? What a great idea LOL, I'll have to put it on my list of things to try before i die...think it might be last...haha
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I've got to see one of those "sonic booms" myself, it'd be pretty awesome.

By the way, this is a massive thread revival lol
Funny how these things pop back up I have actually seen that cerenkov radiation in person at a nuclear power plants (spent) fuel storage, where they keep still have rods in a (rather deep) pool of water.

It happens because particles are emitted by the spent fuel at speeds greater than the speed of light in water (this is lower than the speed of light in a vacuum). The excess energy is a released as photons of high energy. In the typical situation, there is actually more radiation produced in the UV than in the visible spectrum, but even the small fraction that is visible produces an impressive blue glow.

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Rather not, but i do wonder if anyone ever accidentily fell into one of these pools. I suppose chances of surviving arent even that bad - as long as the long lasting isotopes are contained within the fuel rods.
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As long as you don't dive deep you'll be OK
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Well, i figured: the true danger would be from ingesting neutron activated isotopes of either hydrogen or oxygen. Deuterium is very safe to ingest, and most higher oxygen isotopes are very unstable.

Such pools of nuclear material arent usually set up to prevent someone falling in at all costs either - its just railing you can step over. I doubt anyone ever took a dip, but if it would happpen, they'd probably be relatively okay.

Its something reserved to radiolgical workers though, where different limits apply. As such being exposed to the annual background dose is acceptable, whereas civilians cannot be exposed to more than 1/10th.
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