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[quote author=SenKat_Stonetek link=1213721006/12#12 date=1214540146][quote author=el-taco link=1213721006/0#11 date=1214538940]I bought SenKat's ones yesterday (or was it the day before?)
I think it was the day before :P These are the best quality - Electron has no basis for his statements, other than hatred towards me, and total ignorance of the facts. Frothy sells high quality items - I am NOT knocking his stuff - not one bit. He has no items that are in the $40.00 price range - nor does anyone else that matches these for quality. It's what I use - and I want to see my grandchildren play...at some FAR distant point, that is...no hurry on grandkids for me...NOPE ! [/quote]
The basis is very simple, and has nothing to do with you, I don't recall even mentioning you, in-fact I know I didn't.
Contact NOIR and/or WL they will both tell you NO NOIR does NOT make the LaserShields, they ARE made in China, very True and maybe that is where the confusion comes from, the Sport Elites Are made by NOIR, and just because WL sells both, doesn't make them both made by the same company and in-fact they are not, nor does WL state they are.
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[quote author=electron link=1213721006/12#15 date=1214563973][quote author=SenKat_Stonetek link=1213721006/12#12 date=1214540146][quote author=el-taco link=1213721006/0#11 date=1214538940]I bought SenKat's ones yesterday (or was it the day before?)
I think it was the day before :P These are the best quality - Electron has no basis for his statements, other than hatred towards me, and total ignorance of the facts. Frothy sells high quality items - I am NOT knocking his stuff - not one bit. He has no items that are in the $40.00 price range - nor does anyone else that matches these for quality. It's what I use - and I want to see my grandchildren play...at some FAR distant point, that is...no hurry on grandkids for me...NOPE ! [/quote]
The basis is very simple, and has nothing to do with you, I don't recall even mentioning you, in-fact I know I didn't.
Contact NOIR and/or WL they will both tell you NO NOIR does NOT make the LaserShields, they ARE made in China, very True and maybe that is where the confusion comes from, the Sport Elites Are made by NOIR, and just because WL sells both, doesn't make them both made by the same company and in-fact they are not, nor does WL state they are.
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Blah, blah, blah.... just loads more BS coming out of your mouth.[/quote]

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Provide full documentation then that they are made by NOIR, they're NOT, and you saying so doesn't change anything; even WL wouldn't state that.
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[quote author=SenKat_Stonetek link=1213721006/12#16 date=1214569386][quote author=electron link=1213721006/12#15 date=1214563973][quote author=SenKat_Stonetek link=1213721006/12#12 date=1214540146][quote author=el-taco link=1213721006/0#11 date=1214538940]I bought SenKat's ones yesterday (or was it the day before?)
I think it was the day before :P These are the best quality - Electron has no basis for his statements, other than hatred towards me, and total ignorance of the facts. Frothy sells high quality items - I am NOT knocking his stuff - not one bit. He has no items that are in the $40.00 price range - nor does anyone else that matches these for quality. It's what I use - and I want to see my grandchildren play...at some FAR distant point, that is...no hurry on grandkids for me...NOPE ! [/quote]
The basis is very simple, and has nothing to do with you, I don't recall even mentioning you, in-fact I know I didn't.
Contact NOIR and/or WL they will both tell you NO NOIR does NOT make the LaserShields, they ARE made in China, very True and maybe that is where the confusion comes from, the Sport Elites Are made by NOIR, and just because WL sells both, doesn't make them both made by the same company and in-fact they are not, nor does WL state they are.
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Blah, blah, blah.... just loads more BS coming out of your mouth.[/quote]

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Provide full documentation then that they are made by NOIR, they're NOT, and you saying so doesn't change anything; even WL wouldn't state that. [/quote]

Oh piss off, dumbass. You are the one that says they are not made by NOIR - so you prove your point, or have a heaping helping of STFU. You are a name shifting moron, who is really lucky to even be able to read these forums any more, PICRTHIS. You should crawl back under the rock you came out of, pull your head out of your ass, and stop shooting off about things you have no idea about. Your knowledge is nil, your contribution less than that, and you have a zero personality. You should need a license to be able to breathe, much less post on a forum where most people engage in intelligent conversations. You shot off at the mouth stating borderline prejudiced statements regarding a product that you have purchased MANY of - and the burden of proof lies with you. so I say again, prove it, or STFU...I am sure you can Google, "STFU" to find out what it means if I confused you by using an acronym (you can look up that word on Websters.com if you need to as well).
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[quote author=electron link=1213721006/12#17 date=1214575157][quote author=SenKat_Stonetek link=1213721006/12#16 date=1214569386][quote author=electron link=1213721006/12#15 date=1214563973][quote author=SenKat_Stonetek link=1213721006/12#12 date=1214540146][quote author=el-taco link=1213721006/0#11 date=1214538940]I bought SenKat's ones yesterday (or was it the day before?)
I think it was the day before :P These are the best quality - Electron has no basis for his statements, other than hatred towards me, and total ignorance of the facts. Frothy sells high quality items - I am NOT knocking his stuff - not one bit. He has no items that are in the $40.00 price range - nor does anyone else that matches these for quality. It's what I use - and I want to see my grandchildren play...at some FAR distant point, that is...no hurry on grandkids for me...NOPE ! [/quote]
The basis is very simple, and has nothing to do with you, I don't recall even mentioning you, in-fact I know I didn't.
Contact NOIR and/or WL they will both tell you NO NOIR does NOT make the LaserShields, they ARE made in China, very True and maybe that is where the confusion comes from, the Sport Elites Are made by NOIR, and just because WL sells both, doesn't make them both made by the same company and in-fact they are not, nor does WL state they are.
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Blah, blah, blah.... just loads more BS coming out of your mouth.[/quote]

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Provide full documentation then that they are made by NOIR, they're NOT, and you saying so doesn't change anything; even WL wouldn't state that. [/quote]

Oh piss off, dumbass. You are the one that says they are not made by NOIR - so you prove your point, or have a heaping helping of STFU. You are a name shifting moron, who is really lucky to even be able to read these forums any more, PICRTHIS. You should crawl back under the rock you came out of, pull your head out of your ass, and stop shooting off about things you have no idea about. Your knowledge is nil, your contribution less than that, and you have a zero personality. You should need a license to be able to breathe, much less post on a forum where most people engage in intelligent conversations. You shot off at the mouth stating borderline prejudiced statements regarding a product that you have purchased MANY of - and the burden of proof lies with you. so I say again, prove it, or STFU...I am sure you can Google, "STFU" to find out what it means if I confused you by using an acronym (you can look up that word on Websters.com if you need to as well).[/quote]

DITTO, not being dragged down to your level, some of us have real jobs and don't try to push trinkets all day. ;D

I would highly suggest you stop trying to flame members on this forum.

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I don't wanna get in an argument - just wanna point out that WL goggles are tried and true over a very long period of time with very many users. I've owned almost every type WL has ever offered (On my shelf at home I can think of at least 8 distinctly different types of goggles from WL) and I use them all the time with green blue and red lasers ranging anywhere from 1mW to 1W. A power meter can verify their usefulness, unlike many of the crappy knockoff goggles that have been making rounds on the web the past few months.
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I actually have no argument with that statement at all, your freely expressing your opinion and experience; thats what the Forum is all about.

What are some of the others you like?
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I actually have no argument with that statement at all, your freely expressing your opinion and experience; thats what the Forum is all about.

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He was stating FACTS, PICRTHIS

I will continue to flame idiotic comments from you until you leave, jackass.
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;D ;D

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The burden of proof rest with the seller.
You need a bit of argumentation theory

Let me help

The burden of proof rests with the accuser, NOT the accused (especially in any system based in English common law, like the US)

Have you ever heard the words, "Innocent until proven guilty"?

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The burden of proof rest with the seller.
Wrong answer, PICRTHIS. Why don't you go ahead and change your name back - everyone knows now who you are, and how low of a "human" being you are - as well as your, "I'm a customs agent...I have secret shoppers out there to bust you, and others like you" ways....you are scum, plain and simple - and even if you DID have proof, your "word" is as transparent as your boasts of self importance. *sigh* Such a sad, sad, person.
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Just got my WL lasershades 2-pack from Greg today. Nicely timed lol.. arrived the same day as my dilda (which i ordered a week before the goggles..) ;D Thanks man
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Old 06-27-2008, 09:33 PM #28
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Excellent :-) Glad they got there safely !!
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[quote author=electron link=1213721006/12#23 date=1214586714];D ;D

The burden of proof rest with the seller.
Wrong answer, PICRTHIS. *Why don't you go ahead and change your name back - everyone knows now who you are, and how low of a "human" being you are - as well as your, "I'm a customs agent...I have secret shoppers out there to bust you, and others like you" ways....you are scum, plain and simple - and even if you DID have proof, your "word" is as transparent as your boasts of self importance. **sigh* Such a sad, sad, person.[/quote]
Delusional, the only person spewing out that crap is you, next thing you know your going to tell us ALIENS are after you Greg ;D ;D
Mommy is calling you, time to change your diaper and take your Meds now; try and be a good little boy. *:'(

So I'm sure you spent plenty of time go back & forth with WL, whats the matter they give you the bad news? lasershields are NOT made by NOIR USA. *;D
Hey here's a Hoot for you, change your Trinket site and state in the description they're made by noir; now that would be a hoot if you do that. *
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Well, instead of keep throwing mud at each other, the most logical thing would be to ask WL where they purchase the green laser shades. So I did:



Unfortunately she does not mention where the shades come from, but according to this CS representative they are not made by NoIR.
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[quote author=SenKat_Stonetek link=1213721006/24#25 date=1214588491][quote author=electron link=1213721006/12#23 date=1214586714];D ;D

The burden of proof rest with the seller.
Wrong answer, PICRTHIS. Why don't you go ahead and change your name back - everyone knows now who you are, and how low of a "human" being you are - as well as your, "I'm a customs agent...I have secret shoppers out there to bust you, and others like you" ways....you are scum, plain and simple - and even if you DID have proof, your "word" is as transparent as your boasts of self importance. *sigh* Such a sad, sad, person.[/quote]
Delusional, the only person spewing out that crap is you, next thing you know your going to tell us ALIENS are after you Greg ;D ;D
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So I'm sure you spent plenty of time go back & forth with WL, whats the matter they give you the bad news? lasershields are NOT made by NOIR USA. ;D
Hey here's a Hoot for you, change your Trinket site and state in the description they're made by noir; now that would be a hoot if you do that.
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Change my diapers ? LOL You are a funny little prick ! PICRTHIS.... you will go down in history for being the most pitiful little asswipe to ever post on any forum, period. How is the customs inspection business going, Mr almighty ? I had previously been informed of my mistake regarding the manufacturer - not that you ever proved anything, because you are too simple to do that, someone else had to post the proof. I still stand behind the quality of the goggles - as well as standing beside my comments regarding you, and how much of a worthless F UCKTARD you are. Trinket site...yeah - jealousy rears its' ugly head yet again. I'll bet you suffer from many illnesses, massive delusions being the most horrid I am certain. There IS help - I am sure someone can post links for you, since you are waaaay too simple to find them yourself. Have a great life, pitiful person
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I already knew they weren't made by NOIR USA before I made the post; otherwise I wouldn't have stated "The burden of proof rest with the seller" I was just letting you make a fool of yourself as usual. I had already contacted WL & NOIR USA a long time ago, YOUR the ONLY ONE that insisted differently; case closed. *;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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