What should a 200mW red dot look like with good googles

I have the O-Like T-Rex goggles. I've seen some posts saying that particular brand is garbage.

With it, my 200mW red looks like on of those cheap pointers. I've never had a reflection or hit but some specular reflections from burning stuff, they're not uncomfortable but still bright and can cause minor eye strain.

Am I doing my retinas a disservice by entrusting them with these or should I get some better ones?

With the Eagle Pair goggles that I got with my Survival Laser 660n Red 300mw;

Eagle Pair® 190-470nm & 610-760nm Laser Safety Goggles / OD4+
Eagle Pair® 190-470nm & 610-760nm Laser Safety Goggles

... in a dimly lit room (21" widescreen flatscreen computer monitor, 1 heavily shaded 13W flourescent bulb in the corner of the room, with an opaque screen, totally INDIRECT lighting) ...

... the 300mw red spot is BARELY visible, *TINY*, while on a WHITE wall, think "cheap red 1mw laser pointer". CANNOT see the red spot at all on dark objects. CANNOT see the beam.

Hope this helps. I'm a newbie; not that experienced.

To be honest, my o-like 650nm goggles don't seem to do much, if anything. I don't trust them at all.

Which is the reason I don't try to burn with my red lasers... only in it for the beams

Yeah this has confirmed my suspicion that these googles are shit. If only I had known earlier I would have complained to Susie.

I guess I won't use my red just to be safe. The novelty of lighting matches and burning tape has gotten old

Even my focalprice googles reduce 60mW of green into an extremely dim dot and 50mW of violet almost invisible.

Yup, live and learn.

Also as soon as I got my first 445, burning with a red just seemed like playing with matches when a blow torch is at hand:eg:

I still want to collect wavelengths, maybe these new 635s on the market can make a big splash. But from my knowledge with others lasers and how they look through glasses, you should see a dim dot, maybe as bright as a 1mw red laser to the human eye with no glasses on. That's how my 100mw green looks with the eagle pair.