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Gordon, from one welder to a nouther, you know that's not funny.
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Point a laser at fully blind eye?
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GoRdOn_B
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lolz did i forget the /sarcasm tags?
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No no no 
Save the eye! the stem cell science had made big progress last months, i could imagine you can repair even an blind eye in the next ten years!!!
Save the eye! the stem cell science had made big progress last months, i could imagine you can repair even an blind eye in the next ten years!!!
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Kinda bad example, but I don't think it is a wise idea
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Not my idea, she was the curious one and that's why 18 year old girls are a pain in the neck. I should have had her make the post.
She wanted to see light. I'm not a doctor I told her, but she is the risk taker. I think my lasers and going to be put somewhere locked when she is around...
I thought it was stupid, but this is too much. I never let her touch mine, or anyone else. Well at least it created discussion. In there future there may be a similar thread about a fully blind person wanting the same.
I said the light would appear as bright as the sun, that got her attention. I can sympathize with wanting to see light in that eye, but like it's been posted idiotic and a doctor's job only. This is only confirming my thoughts. Again I DID NOT PLAN ON DOING THIS. Her thought when we had a discussion, and I said it was not a good idea then.
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Ever see an eye fill up with blood?
Yeah... me either... but just because you're blind doesn't mean it cant happen!! hehe...
There is a laser safety story out there (a true story... not an 'urban legend') where a lab assistant took a full pulse of a strong yag laser to the eye, obviously damaging tissue, and the tissues bled into the eye.
Just because the eye is basically worthless (except for looking pretty... of course) doesn't mean you wont be causing damage. I would think damage from the laser could lead to some kind of crazy infection of the eye and then she might be in real trouble.
EDIT: wait, is it only one eye that is blind or is it both? If she's completely blind in both eyes, just tell her you're shining your laser into her eye.... not like she'll ever know. "Oh well... I guess it didn't work"
Yeah... me either... but just because you're blind doesn't mean it cant happen!! hehe...
There is a laser safety story out there (a true story... not an 'urban legend') where a lab assistant took a full pulse of a strong yag laser to the eye, obviously damaging tissue, and the tissues bled into the eye.
Just because the eye is basically worthless (except for looking pretty... of course) doesn't mean you wont be causing damage. I would think damage from the laser could lead to some kind of crazy infection of the eye and then she might be in real trouble.
EDIT: wait, is it only one eye that is blind or is it both? If she's completely blind in both eyes, just tell her you're shining your laser into her eye.... not like she'll ever know. "Oh well... I guess it didn't work"
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Show this to her working eye and see if she still thinks it is a worthwhile experiment.
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No !!
From an eye surgery specialist:
bad idea. Damage instant and unrecoverable of the internal surface of the retina, and with 400mW for enough time, possible damage of the deep layer of nervous fibers just under the retinal surface ..... practically, a bit like take a needle and pin the retinal surface ..... blindness is nothing, compared with the effect of a long exposition that reach to damage the nervous network.
Just for do you an example, do you know the effect when, having a damaged tooth, you need to work on the nerve inside it ? ..... never tried vhen the doctor touch it without an anesthesy, or when the nerve is so flamed that you need to inject the anesthetic directly inside it ? ..... well, the eye is also more sensitive .....
From an eye surgery specialist:
bad idea. Damage instant and unrecoverable of the internal surface of the retina, and with 400mW for enough time, possible damage of the deep layer of nervous fibers just under the retinal surface ..... practically, a bit like take a needle and pin the retinal surface ..... blindness is nothing, compared with the effect of a long exposition that reach to damage the nervous network.
Just for do you an example, do you know the effect when, having a damaged tooth, you need to work on the nerve inside it ? ..... never tried vhen the doctor touch it without an anesthesy, or when the nerve is so flamed that you need to inject the anesthetic directly inside it ? ..... well, the eye is also more sensitive .....
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This is extremely embarrassing. I guess I deserve it for even bringing up such a stupid topic when I've been on this forum a while. 18 year old girl, wanted to know and I told her it was not going to happen. She wanted to know why and I couldn't explain exactly why. Other than it was a bad idea and could cause pain. For the record I wasn't going to shine the laser at her. I said I wouldn't do it. She wanted to do it herself. I thought the same; it would do something terrible, and she would run around screaming. Too much of a risk taker for my tastes, and my eye hurts now just thinking of this.
I'm blaming her but it's my fault for even indulging in the question. She was pretty even with a blind eye. Can I blamed for asking details? Just one date, anyway. The 24 year old I'm seeing now is much better and not so stupid (not blind in one eye either). Doesn't care for lasers though (haven't even mentioned that yet...).
Why do you need see pictures Niko... She was just a date, her eye looked a bit odd; like someone with a blind eye would. Not that I spend much time looking at her eyes...
Looked something like this:
Only with a blind eye that looked a bit odd. You can see why I wasn't thinking clearly.
I assume the lab assistant could now try the same thing being blind in one eye.
I found someone better, let's change the subject to how to tell how a mature 24 year old woman I'm seeing about lasers without making me sound like an immature kid. She liked CSI stuff so what a blu-ray shows with yellow glasses is pretty close...
I'm blaming her but it's my fault for even indulging in the question. She was pretty even with a blind eye. Can I blamed for asking details? Just one date, anyway. The 24 year old I'm seeing now is much better and not so stupid (not blind in one eye either). Doesn't care for lasers though (haven't even mentioned that yet...).
Why do you need see pictures Niko...
She was just a date, her eye looked a bit odd; like someone with a blind eye would. Not that I spend much time looking at her eyes... Looked something like this:
Only with a blind eye that looked a bit odd. You can see why I wasn't thinking clearly.
Ever see an eye fill up with blood?
Yeah... me either... but just because you're blind doesn't mean it cant happen!! hehe...
There is a laser safety story out there (a true story... not an 'urban legend') where a lab assistant took a full pulse of a strong yag laser to the eye, obviously damaging tissue, and the tissues bled into the eye.
Just because the eye is basically worthless (except for looking pretty... of course) doesn't mean you wont be causing damage. I would think damage from the laser could lead to some kind of crazy infection of the eye and then she might be in real trouble.
EDIT: wait, is it only one eye that is blind or is it both? If she's completely blind in both eyes, just tell her you're shining your laser into her eye.... not like she'll ever know. "Oh well... I guess it didn't work"
I assume the lab assistant could now try the same thing being blind in one eye.
I found someone better, let's change the subject to how to tell how a mature 24 year old woman I'm seeing about lasers without making me sound like an immature kid. She liked CSI stuff so what a blu-ray shows with yellow glasses is pretty close...
This is extremely embarrassing. I guess I deserve it for even bringing up such a stupid topic when I've been on this forum a while. 18 year old girl, wanted to know and I told her it was not going to happen. She wanted to know why and I couldn't explain exactly why. Other than it was a bad idea and could cause pain. For the record I wasn't going to shine the laser at her. I said I wouldn't do it. She wanted to do it herself. I thought the same; it would do something terrible, and she would run around screaming. Too much of a risk taker for my tastes, and my eye hurts now just thinking of this.
I'm blaming her but it's my fault for even indulging in the question. She was pretty even with a blind eye. Can I blamed for asking details? Just one date, anyway. The 24 year old I'm seeing now is much better and not so stupid (not blind in one eye either). Doesn't care for lasers though (haven't even mentioned that yet...).
Why do you need see pictures Niko...
Looked something like this:
Only with a blind eye that looked a bit odd. You can see why I wasn't thinking clearly.
I assume the lab assistant could now try the same thing being blind in one eye.
I found someone better, let's change the subject to how to tell how a mature 24 year old woman I'm seeing about lasers without making me sound like an immature kid. She liked CSI stuff so what a blu-ray shows with yellow glasses is pretty close...
I didn't need the picture, it was a joke regarding the "Internet Hate Machine".
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Yes, yes it is. I made a grand off it in a month so not bad. My "laser cred" has dropped about 25 points though.
Considering a doctor in California has had some good results in implanting retinal stimulation chips, I would not do anything just yet.
About 4 years ago I saw a TV special showing 16x16 with 64x64 with the way,implanted in guys with total blindness. It started working in 50% of the cases. Now 16x16 (256 pixels ) was not much, but to those guys it was seeing grandchildren moving for the first time and some navigation without canes. They could scan their head around and build up a picture well enough to walk down hallway.
Others have had better success implanting electrode arrays on the brain.
I bet you'll hear about this working within a decade;
Steve
About 4 years ago I saw a TV special showing 16x16 with 64x64 with the way,implanted in guys with total blindness. It started working in 50% of the cases. Now 16x16 (256 pixels ) was not much, but to those guys it was seeing grandchildren moving for the first time and some navigation without canes. They could scan their head around and build up a picture well enough to walk down hallway.
Others have had better success implanting electrode arrays on the brain.
I bet you'll hear about this working within a decade;
Steve
It's threads like these that made Frothy leave. Seriously, do you think shining a super unstable laser pointer into someones eye is going to do ANY good?!!?
You don't pay a shitload of money for eye surgery so a doctor can shine his pointer in your eye ...
You don't pay a shitload of money for eye surgery so a doctor can shine his pointer in your eye ...
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Are you kidding me?? why is this even being discussed, talked about, even remotely being considered??
this is one of the most assinine and COMPLETELY irresponsible laser "What if's" i have ever seen!!!
I have a friend who has no feeling in her arm. she asked if i would take a nail and hammer it through her arm. i mean, whats the big deal? she cant feel anything anyway right??
sorry ladies and gentlemen but it is THIS EXACT type of irresponsible "what if's" and "well, i didnt know's" and "Well, i saw it on the internet" and "well, it was just a question" STUPID ass post that makes life a LIVING HELL for laserists who actually have to rely on lasers to pay the bills!!!
do some of you NOT THINK the FDA/CDRH reads this forum in GREAT detail on a daily basis???
If you wanna shoot something in your girlfriends eye.....use your imagination....NOT your laser!!
this is one of the most assinine and COMPLETELY irresponsible laser "What if's" i have ever seen!!!
I have a friend who has no feeling in her arm. she asked if i would take a nail and hammer it through her arm. i mean, whats the big deal? she cant feel anything anyway right??
sorry ladies and gentlemen but it is THIS EXACT type of irresponsible "what if's" and "well, i didnt know's" and "Well, i saw it on the internet" and "well, it was just a question" STUPID ass post that makes life a LIVING HELL for laserists who actually have to rely on lasers to pay the bills!!!
do some of you NOT THINK the FDA/CDRH reads this forum in GREAT detail on a daily basis???
If you wanna shoot something in your girlfriends eye.....use your imagination....NOT your laser!!
