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Old 02-02-2011, 01:15 AM   #1
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wat are the regulations for lasers in bc are u aloud over 5mw to be shipped in?
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From what I've read it's illegal, but often unenforced. I've never heard of customs confiscating any lasers at the Canadian border.

PS: Learn to spell. If you're too stupid to form a coherent sentence you should not be playing with dangerous toys.
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i do know how to spell very well actually i just dont care to much for grammer or the english language etc etc. and thanks i hope the one i ordered from dino direct actually makes it in since its 50mw. 50mW 532nm Green Beam Laser Pointer Pen Black - DinoDirect.com thats the product i ordered. and yea i kno these are very dangerous but i am not stupid enough to look into the beam i know i can go blind.... and im NOT stupid so dont call me stupid please because i am not stupid i just am not book smart!
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Sorry, I didn't mean to say you're stupid, but that's how you sound online if you can't bother to spell, capitalize, and punctuate correctly. It's hard to read, that's all.

Anyways, think about picking up laser goggles. 50mW might not be much, but if you hit a piece of glass and it reflects the wrong way, you can still cause permanent eye damage.

Be careful, be responsible. Treat a laser like a loaded gun. Always pay attention to where you're pointing it at all times.
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pseudo where did you read it was illegal in bc? Ive never seen such laws.
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pseudo where did you read it was illegal in bc? Ive never seen such laws.
the canadian government website. it says that its illegal to own any laser over 5mw without a proper license thing or authorization from the government but i dont get that the do that when 50mw wont make u blind instantly but it is still dangerous. i just hope that my laser gets here by friday! if it does ill post pics and vids up
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The Canadian government website? Can you narrow that down a bit, there are surely hundreds of Canadian government websites.

There is no mention of lasers on "the" Canadian government website:
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How about pasting a link?
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pseudo where did you read it was illegal in bc? Ive never seen such laws.
Hmm. I tried looking it up again but I can't find it. I know there's CSA regulations on selling radiation emitting devices, but as for the actual importing, I can't find where that was illegal. I seem to recall it was actually illegal to have anything over 1mW unless it was used for demonstration purposes by a qualified educational institution.

Wikipedia on the other hand, says specifically that it's not illegal, so I might have been mistaken. At any rate if it is illegal, it's pretty much never enforced.
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Quoting a professional laser safety company:

In Canada, the national laser product safety regulations is the Radiation Emitting Devices Act, Chapter R-1:2001, (RED) issued by Department of Justice Canada, "An Act respecting the sale and importation of certain radiation emitting devices." RED refers to both 21CFR and IEC 60825 as the prescribed regulations for the purpose of radiation protection to persons. Depending on the particular Canadian province and the local Canadian authority having jurisdiction, either 21CFR or IEC 60825 compliance is required for laser products introduced in Canadian commerce. [url=http://canada.justice.gc.ca]Welcome Page | Page d'accueil[

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i dont need this thread anymore got my laser today its pree bright lol and i bought some saftey glasses that came with it aswell
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From what I've read it's illegal, but often unenforced. I've never heard of customs confiscating any lasers at the Canadian border.

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Actually there are NO regulations for the importation of laser pointers to Canada.
This MAY soon change. It is illegal to sell laser pointers over 5mW to anyone under age 18.
I have asked the RCMP and CBA about this. They did say that you need a GOOD valid reason to posses them. If they become a problem, you'll be charged and laser pointer will be confiscated.
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I would be very interested to know where people are getting these synopses of Canadian law from. Heresay from an RCMP officer, or even from a CBA member, isn't citable law. I'm not suggesting that any of the explanations above are wrong, I'm simply suggesting that if they are in fact valid, then you should be able to supply reference to an actual valid legal pronouncement. (legislation, case law, regulations, etc)

- If indeed you need a valid reason to possess lasers in Canada, then this should be codified somewhere.

- If it is illegal to sell laser pointers to anyone under 18, if they're over 5mW, where is this rule found?
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It isn't explicitly stated in the law, however according the RCMP, if they are found to be used in a public place/venue then you will have to get permission if they are beyond 5mW. I have done several demos, of lasers burning and cutting from a distance and popping balloons, I got permission as the laser was a class IV. This was in S.Korea, btw.
(example) This is when you will have to defend your reason for possession. Private use is not affected.

Laser pointers are governed by Canadian consumer safety board and health Canada It's Your Health - Laser Pointers

Not selling powerful pointers to anyone under 18 is a new rule introduced by the government of Canada, and it is loosely enforced!
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It isn't explicitly stated in the law, however according the RCMP, if they are found to be used in a public place/venue then you will have to get permission if they are beyond 5mW. (...) This is when you will have to defend your reason for possession. Private use is not affected.
If it's not explicitly stated in the law (nor interpreted into an existing law, via case law etc), then where does this "beyond 5mW" figure come from? The RCMP doesn't make the law, they enforce it. It's not constitutional for the state to require you to defend your possession of something that there are no laws prohibiting possession of, nor requiring disclosure of.

Again there MAY BE laws regulating possession of > 5mW laser. I'm not saying otherwise. I'm just suggesting that if there is, it should be citable.

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Laser pointers are governed by Canadian consumer safety board and health Canada It's Your Health - Laser Pointers
That page looks to me like an informational or "warning" page, outlining laser pointer dangers, etc. It doesn't suggest that the consumer safety board, nor health Canada, are responsible for "governance" of lasers.

Again, lasers MAY be regulated in Canada, I am not informed enough to support this contention, nor suggest otherwise. However, the link above doesn't appear to me to be the source of any potential regulation.

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Where? What rule? What act? What legislation?
It may be loosely enforced, and that's ok, that's not what I'm asking about. Even loosely enforced rules of law are codified.

Again, to be SUPER CLEAR - I'm not suggesting one way or the other as to whether as to the extent of any potential laser laws in Canada. I am simply suggesting that claims and heresay aren't law, and if any of this these claims really ARE true, then they would be incredibly easy to substantiate with a hyper-link to the appropriate legislation, case law, published regulation, etc.
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Police officers here in BC can and do interpret the law. A laser to the face of a person driving, driving = assault and use of a weapon causing bodily harm... etc..
Again, there are no specific acts that regulate by law the sale of laser pointers. It is merely suggested. This WILL change.
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Police officers here in BC can and do interpret the law. A laser to the face of a person driving, driving = assault and use of a weapon causing bodily harm... etc..
Again, there are no specific acts that regulate by law the sale of laser pointers. It is merely suggested. This WILL change.
Agreed. If you use a laser to commit assault, it seems reasonable to assume that you could be charged with assault. I've speculated on this point previously in another thread.
(Restrictions/regulations in Alberta, Canada?)

But that same general principal applies to hockey sticks, darts, cappuccino makers (if thrown with sufficient force), and icicles. The fact that you can use a laser to committ assault, and may get charged as a result, is a different thing ENTIRELY from saying that lasers are being regulated, that you may have to "defend your reason for possession", or that you may need permission for any specific power level of laser. It's entirely different from suggesting that there is an age-restriction, or a power level restriction, etc.

Further, I'm still really interested in understanding what was the basis for the statement that:
"Not selling powerful pointers to anyone under 18 is a new rule introduced by the government of Canada, and it is loosely enforced!"

I'm not trying to pick on you - I hope it doesn't come across that way. I just think it is important not to give out information of a legal nature if you're not sure about it, or if its here-say, speculative, just a "guess", opinion, etc.
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