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Old 03-11-2017, 03:46 PM #1
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Default Laser fire safety.

I'm a big fan of leaf burning and wood burning art, I have a fire pit and a designed " art " area, however accidents can happen and get out of hand fast.

It's a good idea to be prepared and if working outside know that foliage can smolder for hours, so wet down any area that you have ben working in and check for any smoke or if at night any glow of embers long after you are finished.

Hoses if you have a house are a great idea, fire extinguishers - you can never have too many.

There are little handy ones like the tundra extinguisher in a can available at Wal-Mart and the regular range of sizes and compositions.
I have some of the old stainless industrial extinguishers that you can fill about 65% of the way with water and pressurize with a home air compressor via a shrader valve, the top unscrews at the tangs and I left some in my garage during a freeze into the low 20's and apparently being pressurized was enough that I did not need any antifreeze.

My point is you can never be too careful, make sure everything is out and check again later, be prepared, my outdoor fire pit is very safe even when its windy and I clear the area around it pretty well, but a simple shovel can be a lifesaver for stopping a foliage fire, so have one where you can find it, then make sure you don't need it.






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I really have nothing to add other than I have 2 of the smaller extinguishers handy and near by.
Just actually a really good thread to start RedC
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Default Re: Laser fire safety.

The red dry chemical extinguishers can be refilled with water as well. I have a dozen or so I've been using for 20 years at the firworks shows I shoot.

After the drychemical charge is expended the top can be unscrewed. Fill ~2/3 with water and screw the top back on. I pressurize them with an air gun jammed into the business end of the extinguisher to 100psi and they're good to go, but I never store these under pressure. The cylinders are aluminum so they won't rust. I just worry about the water getting nasty so I empty them between outings. Great squirt guns!
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Yes fire safety is a serious topic and definitely worth mentioning. It can be very quick for a fire to get out of control.
Also be careful burning certain plastics, some can be very flammable and toxic.
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I think this is an excellent idea. Will be picking up a fire extinguisher. Thanks for the suggestion/idea/thought, whatever, just going to grab one. Thanks.
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Yes fire safety is a serious topic and definitely worth mentioning. It can be very quick for a fire to get out of control.
Also be careful burning certain plastics, some can be very flammable and toxic.
Yup, it's sure not like the movie's where the hero run's in and saves people after people with a "controlled" action scene.
One thing that stuck with me recently was I met a man who had burn scars all over his body from a fire when he 12 years old. The first words when I asked him what happened weren't about the "Lord only knows" pain he suffered but how "Metal Fires Doors" expand and you can get stuck inside.
Let's get back to the prevention part as never to see this even happen
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Movies are terrible at portraying the truth, so many things that are made to look easy are really not. As for that guy with scarring. That's terrible. Fire doors are meant to be safety aid, not add to the entrapment. I'm glad he got out alive, but now he has to live with scarring for the rest of his life. I agree, prevention is paramount.
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Good advice--can't be too careful--being prepared for any eventuality within reason makes good sense--goggles are only 1 part of it.
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When you refill an extinguisher with anyting other than it's original content, make sure to label that VERY clearly. Confusion can create huge hazards otherwise: if you were to repurpose a model that normally sprayed power or CO2 to dispense water, someone grabbed that to put out an oil fire would be in deep trouble.

And when it comes to chemical fires it's even more important to get the information right: If you have something like a magnesium fire you really do not want to add extra oxidizer in form of water or CO2 to that situation, but powder could help to put the fire out. Mistaking one for the other could make the difference between firefighting and fuelling an inferno without having a clue on why it is making things far worse instead of putting the fire out.
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We had a fire nearly get out of control at a camp in West Virginia several years ago, thanks to fire extinguishers it was put out. Lesson learned, don't use gasoline in an open fire in the woods.
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When you refill an extinguisher with anyting other than it's original content, make sure to label that VERY clearly. Confusion can create huge hazards otherwise: if you were to repurpose a model that normally sprayed power or CO2 to dispense water, someone grabbed that to put out an oil fire would be in deep trouble.

And when it comes to chemical fires it's even more important to get the information right: If you have something like a magnesium fire you really do not want to add extra oxidizer in form of water or CO2 to that situation, but powder could help to put the fire out. Mistaking one for the other could make the difference between firefighting and fuelling an inferno without having a clue on why it is making things far worse instead of putting the fire out.
YES, that's a good point, but my big silver industrial cans are for my own use, I don't refill the little red ones. I could paint " Contains Water " on them, just incase for some reason someone else gets ahold of one.

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Actually my big silver cans are marked as water type, but you do have a good point, water on a grease fire is KABOOM because the steam can easily make a fuel air bomb out of it.


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