Its a matter of time now...

JLSE · Apr 6, 2010

A 19 year old guy in Ajax ON. just outside Toronto has been arrested for being an idiot! He was caught green handed with a DX (looking) 532nm pen, pointing at a Durham PD helicopter.

The Durham Police have now stated that they are calling for a ban on 3b handhelds. And that there are at least 1 report of aircraft being hit per week out of Pearson International.

Time for me to move to Quebec...

Ajax man charged with shining a laser in pilot's eyes | Toronto & GTA | News | Toronto Sun

There should be video on this and I will post it when it becomes available. I just saw this on the 6pm news..

You can look up old Branden and give em $hit on Facebook

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The laws seem to be stiff here already, its stated that he faces 4-5 charges, 5 years in prison / or $100,000.00 fine (US or Canada funds...same thing)

lasersbee · Apr 7, 2010

Hope they dump it all on the Moron... But even if he gets convicted
and gets the max... With the lax Canadian Penal System... helll be
out in 3 hrs and have paid $1.99 total...

If you are in the Ajax/GTA area and see some Moron with a Laser in
Public then....

Anyone with new information is asked to call
Staff-Sgt. Mack at 1-888-579-1520, Ext. 3440 or anonymously,
Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477).

Jerry

JLSE · Apr 7, 2010

lasersbee said:
Hope they dump it all on the Moron... But even if he gets convicted
and gets the max... With the lax Canadian Penal System... helll be
out in 3 hrs and have paid $1.99 total...

Jerry

LOL, good point! IIRC the guy in Regina or the likes ended up paying 1,500. and probation. It wasnt Ontario, but the laws would be federal no? So probably the same outcome or they will make an example..

I saw the same story on another news channel and the term 'ban' keeps rearing its ugly head.

Ears and Eggs · Apr 7, 2010

Well I guess it is pretty much inevitable that 3b lasers will be banned in Canada at some point, since most countries now have some sort of new legislation against them. Still sucks whenever I hear a story about some idiot who brings us closer to having them banned though. I can't say that I am fully against a ban either, there are many people who REALLY should not be allowed to own high power lasers. It's not really attacks on planes that concern me either, I just don't want to be blinded by some dumb kid while I am walking along the street. I would be happy to see a licensing system implemented for high power lasers that would allow people to go through a licensing process. This would allow us responsible laser users to freely buy and sell 3b and 4 lasers. While it would prohibit the general population from owning them without going through a laser safety test and course.

JLSE · Apr 7, 2010

With the availability and DIY community, I just cant see a ban doing much.

If they make an example of one guy and give him the actual 'max', would most likely not stop any of this activity.

I can still see this being a problem, ban or no ban.

One of the pilots interviewed in a news clip said 'it used to be red lasers, and now green which are much brighter and more dangerous.'

Little do they realize the difference between a 5mW red being not so bright and a 3-400mW DIY.

For distraction value the green takes the cake, but DIY reds are on average more mW and pose a bigger danger.

Lets not forget a class 4 bluray.. The penalties are going to get ridiculous in the near future as the risk becomes greater...

Maybe just give the offenders the chair

Pilgor · Apr 7, 2010

I hope this idiot doesn't ruin it for the rest of us Canadians. If I saw someone pointing an laser at a plane, I would point my laser at them. Now that lasers and the dangers to aircraft's has made Canadian news, they will impose a ban any time soon.

brando132 · Apr 7, 2010

Noooooo! I hope they don't impose a ban...:cryyy: If they do, DIY should be unaffected, right? At least then I can still make high powered ones then.

aryntha · Apr 7, 2010

DIY yes, it'll be around -- BR and red, at least... But importing CNI or Viasho 532s? Those days are probably numbered.

Pilgor said:
If I saw someone pointing an laser at a plane, I would point my laser at them.

I've always been a LITTLE bit tempted to bring a 100mW 532 with me in the cockpit but.... ....no. Won't go there.

silvercookie · Apr 7, 2010

the only thing i still dont under stand is, if the windows + cockpit are on the top half of the plane, and the kid was underneath, how could it get into the pilot's eyes?

it was stupid indeed, but it seems like they are over-exadurating what actually happened.

lasersbee · Apr 7, 2010

If you read the 1st post.....

Police Helicopters have see through bottom shells... and at Airports
(like Pearson) the planes are on Final approach or Takeoff... are close
to the ground...
I can easily see the cockpit window of a plane taking off or landing...

Jerry

silvercookie · Apr 7, 2010

oh wow lol, reading fail.

thought it was a plane.

aryntha · Apr 7, 2010

Err.., you can see the ground from a plane, silvercookie. It's not like you only have a sky-up view.

... I have to land, after all.

You do get that, right? If I'm at say, 7000ft AGL, and I look down, I can see cities, airports, buildings... I don't even really have to be in a banked turn.

So therefore, if I can see something on the ground, someone standing on the ground in that spot, can hit me with a laser, in my plane. In the face.

As Lasersbee said, it's pretty easy to see cockpit windows. If pilots could never see the ground, then planes would be pretty difficult to operate.

HaloBlu · Apr 7, 2010

aryntha said:
always been a LITTLE bit tempted to bring a 100mW 532 with me in the cockpit but.... ....no. Won't go there.

What do you fly Aryntha? :san:

brando132 · Apr 7, 2010

If and when some laws do come into place I hope they are similar to the US's eg. high powered lasers are allowed if they have safety features.(key, light, shutter, etc)

aryntha · Apr 7, 2010

HaloBlu said:
What do you fly Aryntha? :san:

Right now Caravan 675 and C182s. And if there's a need, Mirage. I've said before -- any LPF guys in Colorado<->Wyoming, I'll take you up. Not a problem. We could go for a 400-mile hamburger. Unfortunately due to FAA regs, if there was beer involved, I couldn't parttake.

aryntha · Apr 7, 2010

brando132 said:
If and when some laws do come into place I hope they are similar to the US's eg. high powered lasers are allowed if they have safety features.(key, light, shutter, etc)

See, I actually prefer FDA-rated hosts. Very little chance of an "Oops, I just shot my eye by bumping the button and having the beam reflect off of something in my room."

I know some folks think the delay and interlocks are a pain, but are we really that impatient?

Course, FDA interlocks won't stop a douchebag from being a douchebag.

Its a matter of time now...

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