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Old 07-01-2007, 08:43 PM #33
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I htink you are taking this too seriously - I have tested other goggles, and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are crap that will do nothing to prevent damage to your eyes. I have not tested the toolbarn goggles, cause I have my protcetive eyewear designed for lasers, and am happy with them. If it matters to you about brand etc, cool - I don't care...I didn;t pay a dime for my protective eyewear - nor do I intend to pay any money for some in the future - as I said, I have plenty of protection available, and I do not see them "wearing out" on me anytime soon ! I feel that if you want to use eye protection that is not designed to protect your eyes - you can do so....what I am saying is that my OPINION is, that I will never endorse any kind of protective gogles that are not specifically designed to protect your eyes, with an OD rating assigned to them. That is all you really need to take away from this whole thread - I was asked if a certain type of goggles were any good - and no they are not. They are not any better than wearing sunglasses and thinking you are protected. Do as you wish - that goes for anyone reading this forum, or others - I don't really care if you fry your retinas or not - they are not my eyes - and none of you live close enough to me to be any kind of danger to me while driving around town - so go for it ! I'll spend my money - or "company credits" the way I see fit - and have all kinds of fun while doing so - I will however never purchase anything to protect me that is not designed specifically for that purpose - nor will I recommend them to anyone. To each their own.


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fact to the guy that lost his sight, poor sole; I think he would put a MUCH higher value on retaining his sight than what WL is even charging.
If you are referring to me, there are a number of reasons I bought the lasershades. Mainly because I would at least like to see the spot of the beam, and secondly because there is no IR to worry about with a red laser. If I had a high powered green laser, then it would be a different story.

And please don't refer to me as a poor soul... if it is me you are referring to.

I lost my eye when I was 7. I am now 52. I am completely over it. Thank you
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[quote author=picrthis link=1168063004/30#31 date=1183321420]fact to the guy that lost his sight, poor sole; I think he would put a MUCH higher value on retaining his sight than what WL is even charging.
If you are referring to me, there are a number of reasons I bought the lasershades. Mainly because I would at least like to see the spot of the beam, and secondly because there is no IR to worry about with a red laser. If I had a high powered green laser, then it would be a different story.

And please don't refer to me as a poor soul... if it is me you are referring to.

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Gazoo, NO I was NOT referring to you; I thought it was obvious my post was in regards to SenKat's.
This has gotten out of hand, I was trying to post my opinion with some facts tossed in. Frankly I could care less what anybody purchases. Peace out, I have nothing more to say about this thread.
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so what you're saying is the shades designed to enhance the red beam are not suitible protection while using a green laser, but fine for reds? while googling i came accross this site. http://www.shieldoptic.com/en-pro.htm they offer many designs and i sent an email about the price for the sd1 KTP Nd:YAG. they said $30 it has an od of 4+ and a vlt of 50%. are they any good?
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I don't know if anyone has tried those but the price is good. I wonder how much they charge for shipping? And for which style were you quoted?
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so what you're saying is the shades designed to enhance the red beam are not suitible protection while using a green laser, but fine for reds? while googling i came accross this site. http://www.shieldoptic.com/en-pro.htm they offer many designs and i sent an email about the price for the sd1 KTP Nd:YAG. they said $30 it has an od of 4+ and a vlt of 50%. are they any good?
No - those goggles ENHANCE the red beam - not protect you from it ! Take a look at Glendale, and NOIR, NOIR makes the goggles for both Wicked and NOVA - I would honestly say that $40 is about the priceline you are looking at - I would not get less OD power than that the wicked lasershades, I own both types, two of each - so I can have assistance with photos and whatnot....I would NOT go with less OD rating than those, period (me personally, that is - or my daughter !) Hell, I even make my daughter wear the goggles when she messes around with the CORE she won ! {Which coincedentally the CORE laser I am raffling off is NOT her laser - she will still have one !! I am not THAT mean a least I don't think so :P hehehehehehe !
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so what you're saying is the shades designed to enhance the red beam are not suitible protection while using a green laser, but fine for reds? while googling i came accross this site. http://www.shieldoptic.com/en-pro.htm they offer many designs and i sent an email about the price for the sd1 KTP Nd:YAG. they said $30 it has an od of 4+ and a vlt of 50%. are they any good?

they "enhance" the visibility of red because they block all green light. they work ok for block 532 light, the downside is they are very dark. Like 25% or less VLT. you don't want to go below 30% usually because that's the threshold where your eyes will dilate and put you at risk.

The OD ratings are important. each od is a order of magnitude.

OD1 transmits 10%
OD2 transmits 1%
OD3 transmits 0.1%
OD4 transmits 0.01%
OD5 transmits 0.001%
OD6 transmits 0.0001%

The VLT rating is how much ambient light you block. you want a good OD rating ( od3 or better ) and also as high a VLT as possible.
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i'm waiting on a reply for shipping and i think the price quoted is for any style. i'm sure they make higher od glasses too. email them with what you're interested in to find out. though wicked shades do look more stylish they don't have many options.*i know when it comes to safety price should not be an issue, but i'm poor, and should buy glasses. plus a penny saved is a penny towards yet another laser.

i know its wrong but i cant fully justify spending $60-$70 on safety for a $30 laser. thats like 2 more lasers i could be playing with. now $30 on safety doesn't hurt too much depending on postage, plus i like style 6, they have that 80s duran duran/flock of seaguls vibe *hums that song about rio*

edit: i should scroll to the bottom of the page more often, wicked have many styles, but the more i think about it od4 is ideal.. for me atleast. not toomuch and not too little
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also found this post http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...ead.php?t=2667. they appear to cover 450-680nm
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450-680 goggles are plates of steel. 450-680 is the entire visible spectrum. so if you block all the visible light, your not going to see much
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450-680 goggles are plates of steel. *450-680 is the entire visible spectrum. so if you block *all the visible light, your not going to see much
does the visibility of laser light not depend upon the od rating? the site for the glasses says od3 when you click on 'laser safety glasses' so the beam of any visible laser would be 0.1% of its original visible brightness? and as they appear to have a near 100% vlt there would be no issues with them, so you can play with both red and green at the same time and be safe?
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let me ask you how you can have a HIGH VISIBLE LIGHT TRANSMISSION when you are blocking 99.9% of VISIBLE LIGHT?
Assuming a 450-690nm OD3 range..
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i'm going on the fact they appear to have un tinted lenses and in the picture you can clearly see through them, i understand what you mean though. but how can a near clear lense block all visible light?
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it's either a scam or the gogles were photographed under IR lighting. Coke looks clear with IR lighting.
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Check out my post of difference of ACTUAL good goggles, and sun glasses
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it's either a scam or the gogles were photographed under IR lighting. Coke looks clear with IR lighting.
Interesting...I will give the coke thing a try.
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