Welcome to LPF! Looking for a laser pointer? Click here for the LPF Laser Pointer Company Database. The link will open in a new window for your convenience.









Green Laser Pointers Blue Laser Pointers Red Laser Pointers
Yellow Laser Pointers Violet Laser Pointers Orange Laser Pointers
Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes


























Go Back   Laser Pointer Forums > Lasers > Safety & Legal Issues

LPF Database of Laser Pointer Companies






Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-26-2016, 03:51 AM #1
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 36
Rep Power: 0
pmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond repute
pmurph5 pmurph5 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 36
Rep Power: 0
pmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond repute
Default FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration wants to declare green and blue laser pointers as “defective.” This move would make sales of such pointers essentially illegal in the U.S. It would also make it easier for FDA to control and seize imports of such lasers.

The agency has two main goals:

1) “Turn back the clock” to the 1990s and early 2000s when almost all laser pointers were red. According to the agency, red light has the least interference with pilot vision, compared to equivalent-power green beams which can appear up to 28 times brighter. During this period there were “only” dozens or low hundreds of reported laser/aviation incidents per year, compared with 7,700 incidents in 2015.

2) Make it much easier for customs and law enforcement to identify illegal laser pointers simply by their color. Red and orange-red laser pointers would be permitted; all others would be illegal for general sales.

FDA’s restriction would only affect manufacture and sales of laser pointer products. If states and localities wanted to also restrict individual use and/or possession, they would have to enact new laws in most cases. (A few states and localities currently have restrictions on use and/or possession.) A benefit of FDA’s proposal is that law enforcement could easily identify whether a person possessed a legal or illegal laser, based on its color.

FDA’s proposal and rationale was stated in draft amendments presented to an FDA advisory panel on October 25 2016.

The agency wants to amend the federal laser performance standard to limit laser pointers to the visible range from 610 nanometers (orange-red) to 700 nm (deep red). All other colors including violet, blue, cyan, green, yellow and orange — any wavelength from 400 nm (deep violet) to 609 nm — would not be permitted.

The maximum power level for laser pointers would remain at 4.99 milliwatts.

====================

Here is a link to the full story. At the end of the story is a link to the FDA's document with their actual proposal.

I should remind everyone that FDA probably does not monitor or read this forum. You can discuss all you want here but your comments/input/suggestions etc. will not get to FDA.

If you want to contact FDA, try their consumer information contact webpage. The DICE people either can take your comment directly or can tell you who to contact further.

-- Patrick Murphy, LaserPointerSafety.com


pmurph5 is offline   Reply With Quote








Old 10-26-2016, 03:55 AM #2
Hap's Avatar
Hap Hap is online now
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Morro Bay, California
Posts: 6,574
Rep Power: 4433
Hap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Hap
Hap Hap is online now
Super Moderator
Hap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Morro Bay, California
Posts: 6,574
Rep Power: 4433
Hap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Hap
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

Doesn't the government have better things to do then to try and ban some laser pointers due to their color? Man this is getting ridiculous!

-Alex
__________________
450nm: Roithner-450 5mW (getting soon)
405nm: (Roithner) CNI GLP-405 5mW (getting here)

"Open your eyes, look within. Are you satisfied with the life you're living?" -Bob Marley
“The universe is a pretty big place. If it's just us, seems like an awful waste of space.” -Carl Sagan
You are important: Pale Blue Dot



532nm:CNI MGL-F-532 2.8W (Selling) http://www.ebay.com/itm/112309635750...84.m1555.l2648
Hap is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2016, 04:22 AM #3
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 36
Rep Power: 0
pmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond repute
pmurph5 pmurph5 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 36
Rep Power: 0
pmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

FDA is trying to reduce the number and intensity of laser visual interference with pilots.

Because green lasers are brighter than other lasers with equivalent power, and because over 90% of incidents involve lasers, they feel that stopping sales of green laser pointers will help reduce the number and intensity of incidents, over time.

They do understand that a reduction will not happen overnight or even within a year or two. But at least it will help slow the flow of green lasers to the general public.

FDA has similar reasons for restricting the colors other than red. They do appear brighter to a dark-adapted eye than red.

More importantly, if only red laser pointers can be sold to the general public, then it is easy to identify and remove from commerce all other pointers not allowed based simply on their color -- no power meters needed.

As the article states, one goal is to "turn back the clock" to when we only had red laser pointers. They did not have as much of a visual impact on pilots.

Again, FDA does NOT believe this is the magic solution. They understand incidents will continue for a long time. But to FDA, this will help start a longer term downward trend.

Their action also may signal to the general public that "hey, these incidents are taken seriously". Just like in the 1980s when people started taking car keys away from drunk drivers.

And finally, there may also be a "this is why we can't have nice things" effect. If the laser pointer manufacturers and laser users could not reduce the incidents -- they rose dramatically last year -- then more drastic steps have to be proposed.

My interpretation/guess as to their rationale.
pmurph5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2016, 04:23 AM #4
Razako's Avatar
Class 3B Laser
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 4,101
Rep Power: 3332
Razako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond repute
Razako Razako is online now
Class 3B Laser
Razako's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 4,101
Rep Power: 3332
Razako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hap View Post
Doesn't the government have better things to do then to try and ban some laser pointers due to their color? Man this is getting ridiculous!

-Alex
Talk about an abuse of governmental power. They're just gonna call blue and green 'defective' so they can ban those colors? Makes literally no sense at all with regard to how that's supposed to be legit lawmaking. Would they really try to even ban <5mw blue/green lasers just by the color? Lots of people like low power greens as teaching aids, gun lasers, and star pointers. Meanwhile, we'd still be able to go buy a 1W red 638nm... Great lawmaking FDA. Another federal agency in dire need of some budget cuts.
__________________


Last edited by Razako; 10-26-2016 at 04:29 AM.
Razako is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2016, 04:43 AM #5
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 36
Rep Power: 0
pmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond repute
pmurph5 pmurph5 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 36
Rep Power: 0
pmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond reputepmurph5 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

I believe FDA is aware they're taking a sideways approach to regulating lasers.

They have to come at it sideways because FDA does not have direct authority over laser pointers and colors. However, they DO have significant authority over defective products.

So to gain this authority, FDA is now asserting that the importance of not flashblinding pilots takes precedence over the importance of a brighter PowerPoint dot.

This may not make sense to laser pointer enthusiasts.

But to pilots who are fed up (and who are a powerful lobby) and to senators who are fed up (and who are very frequent flyers), FDA has come up with a clever workaround to get the authority that they feel has become necessary.

As I said earlier, you can rant and rail against this all you want here in the forum. Have fun and good luck with that.

Since as far as I know, FDA does not routinely monitor this forum, then I suggest you contact FDA directly if you genuinely want them to know your views.
pmurph5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2016, 05:03 AM #6
CynicalBrad's Avatar
Class 1M Laser
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: AL, USA
Posts: 168
Rep Power: 826
CynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond repute
CynicalBrad CynicalBrad is online now
Class 1M Laser
CynicalBrad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: AL, USA
Posts: 168
Rep Power: 826
CynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

<rant>
Im still trying to figure out how the FOOD and DRUG ADMINISTRATION, got put over lasers at all...
They aren't edible, and aren't in general intended to cure, treat, or prevent any disease.
If anything they need to hand it over to the BATFE and start SERIOUSLY cracking down on these incidents.
Idiots shine lasers at planes because how hard it is to track down that one person without reasonable doubt to punish them for it.
I wouldn't even be against mandatory laser safety training courses to be able to own anything other than class IIIb pointers.
At least that way, some more of the public would be more educated on laser safety.
To anyone in this world, don't let me see you being that idiot shining a laser at or near aircraft, vehicles, or other people as I would gladly be that person to make you regret it.

I like my lasers. The government is getting desperate to limit them due to idiots doing stupid things. Anyone tries to take my lasers because of others' actions and I will take something dear to them.

</rant>
CynicalBrad is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2016, 05:25 AM #7
Hap's Avatar
Hap Hap is online now
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Morro Bay, California
Posts: 6,574
Rep Power: 4433
Hap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Hap
Hap Hap is online now
Super Moderator
Hap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Morro Bay, California
Posts: 6,574
Rep Power: 4433
Hap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Hap
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

Quote:
Originally Posted by CynicalBrad View Post
<rant>
Im still trying to figure out how the FOOD and DRUG ADMINISTRATION, got put over lasers at all...
They aren't edible, and aren't in general intended to cure, treat, or prevent any disease.
If anything they need to hand it over to the BATFE and start SERIOUSLY cracking down on these incidents.
Idiots shine lasers at planes because how hard it is to track down that one person without reasonable doubt to punish them for it.
I wouldn't even be against mandatory laser safety training courses to be able to own anything other than class IIIb pointers.
At least that way, some more of the public would be more educated on laser safety.
To anyone in this world, don't let me see you being that idiot shining a laser at or near aircraft, vehicles, or other people as I would gladly be that person to make you regret it.

I like my lasers. The government is getting desperate to limit them due to idiots doing stupid things. Anyone tries to take my lasers because of others' actions and I will take something dear to them.

</rant>
Indeed. It's very clear the US government is run by a bunch of morons anyway so it dosen't surprise me the kind of things you see them doing at this point lol. How pathetic!

-Alex
__________________
450nm: Roithner-450 5mW (getting soon)
405nm: (Roithner) CNI GLP-405 5mW (getting here)

"Open your eyes, look within. Are you satisfied with the life you're living?" -Bob Marley
“The universe is a pretty big place. If it's just us, seems like an awful waste of space.” -Carl Sagan
You are important: Pale Blue Dot



532nm:CNI MGL-F-532 2.8W (Selling) http://www.ebay.com/itm/112309635750...84.m1555.l2648
Hap is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2016, 05:39 AM #8
CynicalBrad's Avatar
Class 1M Laser
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: AL, USA
Posts: 168
Rep Power: 826
CynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond repute
CynicalBrad CynicalBrad is online now
Class 1M Laser
CynicalBrad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: AL, USA
Posts: 168
Rep Power: 826
CynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

I just hope I can get a DL spartan 589 before they manage to get anything through. It is the only color I truly want but don't have and would be covered by this ban.
Anything I imagine the good old gov't doing anything I see a room for of morons writing themselves raises, trying to justify their existence, and passing laws without reading them other then to exempt themselves from them.
All while rolling around in taxpayer money.
CynicalBrad is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2016, 05:41 AM #9
Crazlaser's Avatar
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 686
Rep Power: 1318
Crazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond repute
Crazlaser Crazlaser is online now
Class 2M Laser
Crazlaser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 686
Rep Power: 1318
Crazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond reputeCrazlaser has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

Quote:
Originally Posted by CynicalBrad View Post
<rant>
Im still trying to figure out how the FOOD and DRUG ADMINISTRATION, got put over lasers at all...
They aren't edible, and aren't in general intended to cure, treat, or prevent any disease.
If anything they need to hand it over to the BATFE and start SERIOUSLY cracking down on these incidents.
Idiots shine lasers at planes because how hard it is to track down that one person without reasonable doubt to punish them for it.
I wouldn't even be against mandatory laser safety training courses to be able to own anything other than class IIIb pointers.
At least that way, some more of the public would be more educated on laser safety.
To anyone in this world, don't let me see you being that idiot shining a laser at or near aircraft, vehicles, or other people as I would gladly be that person to make you regret it.

I like my lasers. The government is getting desperate to limit them due to idiots doing stupid things. Anyone tries to take my lasers because of others' actions and I will take something dear to them.

</rant>
I kind of like that idea. What do you think about some kind of online test that you can only try to pass once per year. If you pass the test the certificate is sent via internet to your local dmv where they issue you a stamp for your ID or drivers license. This ID would be required to operate all class 4 lasers out doors when on public property. Even this is an infringement on our rights, but it's better than banning them altogether.
__________________
Welcome

I have a laser for sale. All funds go towards a graduation senior trip.
PM me to buy. Will ship the same day most likely.


Brand new 16X BDR-209 405nm C6 laser 530ma for $110 850mw

Shipping is included.

My lasers
405nm 850mw BDR-209 C6 850mw
Sanwu 405nm 250mw Sanwu Pocket Series
445nm 1.3 watt 501b Sci-Fi lasers
445nm 1+ watt china generic laser (broken host)
445nm 2.9 watt Sanwu Silver Series
450nm 3mw LP450-1B
450nm 6w NUBM44 project box build (sold)
532nm 50mw laserbtb
532nm 301
532nm 70mw Pman
532nm 92mw Pman
635nm 800mw Sanwu Challenger multimode
638nm Oclaro 700mw build C6
650nm 250mw Sanwu Pocket Series multimode
Laserbtb 980nm 800mw
Eagle Pair goggles 190-540nm & 800-2000nm OD4
Crazlaser's Collection
Crazlaser is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2016, 05:54 AM #10
CynicalBrad's Avatar
Class 1M Laser
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: AL, USA
Posts: 168
Rep Power: 826
CynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond repute
CynicalBrad CynicalBrad is online now
Class 1M Laser
CynicalBrad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: AL, USA
Posts: 168
Rep Power: 826
CynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond reputeCynicalBrad has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

That would be pretty neat.
Here our licenses have a section on the back for class, endorsements, and restrictions.
I could see it now,

CLASS D: D-Regular Operators License
CLASS V: V-Vessel
CLASS IV: IV-May Operate Class IV Lasers

ENDORSEMENTS:
RESTRICTIONS: Must Possess Appropriate Eye Protection
CynicalBrad is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2016, 07:08 AM #11
Alaskan's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Southwest Asia
Posts: 5,334
Rep Power: 4973
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Alaskan Alaskan is offline
Class 4 Laser
Alaskan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Southwest Asia
Posts: 5,334
Rep Power: 4973
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

Side ways approaches to force their legislations are bad news on many levels, idiots.
__________________

The forum costs more to run than donations received, if you wish to help click this link: http://laserpointerforums.com/donations.htm

Laser Safety: http://www.laserpointersafety.com/index.html

Sam's Laser FAQ: Sam's Laser FAQ: Welcome Page

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

To shorten my signature I have moved most of my laser related web links to this forum page, the second post in that thread shows most of my builds... Alaskan's Laser Links: http://laserpointerforums.com/f44/al...ml#post1449395


Sincerely investigate any of these three short quotes as new concepts and you've taken your first step into a larger world:

"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness..." - Max Planck. "Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real" - Neils Bohr. "What we call physical things and events do not exist independently of subjective experience..." - Deepak Chopra.

Each of these three rabbit holes go deep, ending up in the same place.

_______
Alaskan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2016, 08:43 AM #12
CurtisOliver's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Brentwood, England (Near London)
Posts: 1,339
Rep Power: 3359
CurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond repute
CurtisOliver CurtisOliver is online now
Class 3R Laser
CurtisOliver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Brentwood, England (Near London)
Posts: 1,339
Rep Power: 3359
CurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

This is not good news, my country most likely will copy this frankly stupid proposition. Like Razako pointed out, 1W red absolutely fine. Chinese manufacturers will just label them at 650nm regardless of wavelength. This is just going to make things more dangerous as the buyer just won't know what they are getting.
CurtisOliver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2016, 09:18 AM #13
Alaskan's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Southwest Asia
Posts: 5,334
Rep Power: 4973
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Alaskan Alaskan is offline
Class 4 Laser
Alaskan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Southwest Asia
Posts: 5,334
Rep Power: 4973
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

Our modem governments ethics pale by comparison to the past and are getting worse.
__________________

The forum costs more to run than donations received, if you wish to help click this link: http://laserpointerforums.com/donations.htm

Laser Safety: http://www.laserpointersafety.com/index.html

Sam's Laser FAQ: Sam's Laser FAQ: Welcome Page

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

To shorten my signature I have moved most of my laser related web links to this forum page, the second post in that thread shows most of my builds... Alaskan's Laser Links: http://laserpointerforums.com/f44/al...ml#post1449395


Sincerely investigate any of these three short quotes as new concepts and you've taken your first step into a larger world:

"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness..." - Max Planck. "Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real" - Neils Bohr. "What we call physical things and events do not exist independently of subjective experience..." - Deepak Chopra.

Each of these three rabbit holes go deep, ending up in the same place.

_______
Alaskan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2016, 09:20 AM #14
Hap's Avatar
Hap Hap is online now
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Morro Bay, California
Posts: 6,574
Rep Power: 4433
Hap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Hap
Hap Hap is online now
Super Moderator
Hap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Morro Bay, California
Posts: 6,574
Rep Power: 4433
Hap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond reputeHap has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Hap
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan View Post
Our modem governments ethics pale by comparison to the past and are getting worse.
Definitely! I do agree with the point above regarding the wavelength. Chinese supplier will just change the wavelength of the labels and pass off different colors as other wavelengths. It shows how much of a waste of resources the government uses our money for. Instead of helping it's citizens, we are banning certain lasers due to what color they produce? What? Lol!

-Alex
__________________
450nm: Roithner-450 5mW (getting soon)
405nm: (Roithner) CNI GLP-405 5mW (getting here)

"Open your eyes, look within. Are you satisfied with the life you're living?" -Bob Marley
“The universe is a pretty big place. If it's just us, seems like an awful waste of space.” -Carl Sagan
You are important: Pale Blue Dot



532nm:CNI MGL-F-532 2.8W (Selling) http://www.ebay.com/itm/112309635750...84.m1555.l2648
Hap is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2016, 09:22 AM #15
CurtisOliver's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Brentwood, England (Near London)
Posts: 1,339
Rep Power: 3359
CurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond repute
CurtisOliver CurtisOliver is online now
Class 3R Laser
CurtisOliver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Brentwood, England (Near London)
Posts: 1,339
Rep Power: 3359
CurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond reputeCurtisOliver has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

I agree, it is a joke. And they are the people in control.
CurtisOliver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2016, 10:32 AM #16
Cel's Avatar
Cel Cel is online now
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Croatia
Posts: 725
Rep Power: 516
Cel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond repute
Cel Cel is online now
Class 2M Laser
Cel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Croatia
Posts: 725
Rep Power: 516
Cel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond reputeCel has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: FDA wants to restrict green & blue laser pointers as "defective"

Restrictions based on color? Seems familiar, reminds me of something...

Can't be good.
__________________
450nm NDB7875 @ 2A in PL-E
Cel is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply





Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On











Loading








Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Green Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Blue Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Red Lasers
Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Yellow Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Purple Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Orange Lasers
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes




Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use


 


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:45 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO
Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use
Copyright (C) 2017 Laser Pointer Forums, LLC