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I just read a thread by borgqueenx about his SciFi laser horror story experience and watched his video now that he got his laser back. It's the most powerful laser he could buy.
Maybe some of you just ignore the thread because it's old news, but have you seen his video?

Anyone have thoughts to share with borgqueenx?

I swear I feel like I'm beating a dead horse trying to warn people away from a lifetime of sorrow.
How can he be a member here and still not know better.
If it sounds like I'm being picky or going out of my way to make a point it's because I feel sick seeing this stuff again and again, I want people to know better, his ignorance and or apathy threatens our hobby, so yea, I'm going to call him out because not only is he a moment away from a lifetime disability, but he could encourage somebody new to the hobby to take the same extremely assigned risk.

There is no way to get hit in the eye with that laser at that distance and not do serious permanent damage to his eyesight.






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I'm not usually a safety glasses nazi, but that's a pretty sketchy thing to be doing w/o glasses, yknow. Burning something usually requires looking directly at the dot, and glossy materials burning like that almost always find a way to flash your eyes eventually. Other than that, that's one powerful laser...
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That and it's just balanced on the tail, if his knee bumps the desk and the laser tips over he could get it right in the face.

Have you ever seen a medical drawing of the human eye, all our detailed vision is from a tiny spot called the fovea, it's where the eye's lens focuses everything in the center of our field of view to a small point.

It takes 0.25 seconds to blink, a person would easily blind their eye at that distance.

It happened to someone here a while back with a 1w laser that rolled while he was taking a pic.

Plus once there is a hole in the retina blood from the brooks layer floods the eyes viscous humor, everything turns muddy and the retina will peel away without surgery as fluid gets behind it through the tear/hole.

It really is not an oops moment with that much concentrated power at that range, it will do serious lifelong damage.

Plus even without a straight on accident, your eyes light sensing rods/cones do not bleach out to protect themselves from blue light as they do with white.

You could look at bright blue light all day, go to bed seeing just fine, and wake up blind tomorrow from chemical retina damage.
Bright blue light is very dangerous to our eyes. Protection is extra important with blue and purple, also it is a hell of a lot brighter than it looks as our eyes are most sensitive to green, you can loose your ability to see green from viewing too much blue, people really need to wear the safety glasses.

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You bet, I remember that thread. With my PL-E pro I always use safety m'glarses when burning and up close, but when pointing around at walls and trees outside I just use patented safety squints or nothing at all when I know it's safe. Otherwise what's the point in not seein the beam!
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You can look at the relight scattering, the beam in the air, and at a distance hitting anything non reflective.
I like to record my burning and watch it later, it is pretty, and it's safe to watch on your screen that way.
You could get some video glasses with the lcd screens, attach a cam and watch as you burn but you are responsible for your actions, I am not advising anything but proper safety glasses.
The faster the beam is moving and the longer the distance then the shorter the exposure time will be. Such as at a laser show.
But at desktop distance it is hopeless, it matters not if it is falling over, it's way too much energy density that would be concentrated by the eyes lens.

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RedCowboy I stopped caring for people who aren't careful with their lasers. If they get hurt then so be it. We can't ever stop stupid so it's best to not feel pity if something happens.
The only concern though is that if this happened in public and a few were hurt then that reaches the news and brings more eyes against the hobby.
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I saw that earlier too and I was shocked, but being new I know it would not be my place to say anything to a more senior member. :/ Thank you for bringing this up RedCowboy. I have a friend whom is blind, I do not take my sight for granted, sometimes it takes her to remind me how precious each of our senses really are!

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PSA: If you're doing something like this, for crap's sake, at least lay the laser on the side, and against something so it can't roll.

Have done this myself many many times, the burn dots on my ceiling can attest to that... one minor difference... wearing goggles.

All it takes is a split second, and you're f*cked for life. Not worth it.
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PSA: If you're doing something like this, for crap's sake, at least lay the laser on the side, and against something so it can't roll.

Have done this myself many many times, the burn dots on my ceiling can attest to that... one minor difference... wearing goggles.

All it takes is a split second, and you're f*cked for life. Not worth it.
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^^^Interesting you should mention it, but they they did...
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I just read a thread by borgqueenx about his SciFi laser horror story experience and watched his video now that he got his laser back. It's the most powerful laser he could buy.
Maybe some of you just ignore the thread because it's old news, but have you seen his video?
I was cringing just looking at the video from the reflections on the plastic. Those laser dots are hard enough to look at when they hit a wall, but on a shiny piece of plastic at that distance it'd be unbearable and might directly reflect into his eye.

It's just plain idiotic.

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That and it's just balanced on the tail, if his knee bumps the desk and the laser tips over he could get it right in the face.
Oh yes, remember Xoul's accident?

That laser was "only" 1W and slipped off a chair and probably hit him for a moment before he looked away. POP! A big burned area and a permanent blind spot.

Same thing with ghosty87, less extensive (but permanent) damage, but only 100mW.

A six watt laser...
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I wouldn't even think off sitting next to that thing standing on end like that even with safety glasses. We have earthquakes here though, I think about that possibility everytime I set a laser in a tripod on a table.

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Could've been Rick Trent's causin, the guy that doesn't like safety goggles either. Only difference is that this Trent guy sells his lasers too.

Edit: Saw borgqueenx play Black Desert Alpha, something only select few from thousands of people get to play. Why do the stupid people always end up with the nice things?
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Don't care how rich you are, for the time being eye transplants are not an option.
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He has zero understanding of the power he is fooling with. That was hard to watch.
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