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In theory that's true, however consider what's happening when the helicopter is actually hit.

1. The beam is already traveling at least a few hundred feet, which means due to divergence it is no longer focused.

2. The beam hits an angled, at least somewhat reflective surface in the form of a windshield.

3. Typically all these incidents involve shitty pens that don't have a good initial beam diameter or divergence.

That helicopter was inconvenienced less than motorists are on a daily basis from other people driving with their high beams on.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if you watch videos of that particular situation, it seems as if at most the pilot is annoyed, and never in any danger.

This kids attorney should be fired for incompetence, and not challenging the law it self.
You are completely correct. By the time it reaches the helicopter its a huge beam. But I think the reason it is dangerous is because it is usually done at night and the beam is huge so it lights up to whole cockpit. Its like when you are driving down a empty country road with no lights, and someone leaves there brights on and it stuns you for a couple of seconds. Imagine that happening in a helicopter thousands (Or hundreds) of feet in the air.


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Default Re: About time - Aussie gets Gaol for lasering Pol-Air

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The thing is, a laser would have diverged severely before even getting near the chopper/plane. Those cheapo greenies would probably have a 5 meter wide beam by the time they reach and type of aircraft

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It's a good example they're making out of him, but jeez, I do feel sorry for em, seems like getting charged with murder because you slapped someone and "might've continued on the path of violence until bludgeoning the victim to death"
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The idiot Laser jockeys that think they are safe from the
law when shining a laser at an aircraft need to learn that
they are not going to get a simple slap on the wrist...

I don't think 4 years is too much.... especially if he could
get out in 18 months.

As to the Glare in the cockpit... It is not that the laser
would permanently blind the pilot but more the possibility
of temporarily obscuring his vision when that green flash
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again diminish his night time vision.

In a low flying helicopter that is even more of a danger..


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The idiot Laser jockeys that think they are safe from the
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they are not going to get a simple slap on the wrist...

I don't think 4 years is too much.... especially if he could
get out in 18 months.

As to the Glare in the cockpit... It is not that the laser
would permanently blind the pilot but more the possibility
of temporarily obscuring his vision when that green flash
fills the pilots vision and he sees nothing else. And at night
his pupils will get smaller due to the bright green flash and
again diminish his night time vision.

In a low flying helicopter that is even more of a danger..


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Thats what I was trying to say but you described it perfectly! Ya if he can get out in 18 months that's not too bad. Hopefully he learns his lesson....
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The thing is that other potential morons should learn a lesson
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"potential morons" I like the sound of that . I doubt they will learn, like anything else thats illegal people will always still take the chance.
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I forgot to come back to this one - another thing with regards to pol-air is the thing is usually cruising at low altitude (I mean VERY LOW, mabye 500ft), looking for criminals, following stolen cars etc. Helicopters fly over here occasionally and pol-air is easy to pick out - its usually the one that nearly makes the windows rattle.

So the aircraft is already flying low and slow, so a pilot who has his night vision destroyed temporarly by a laser is in great danger of having an accident.
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The punishment fits the crime. It was a POLICE helicopter. You can get serious jail time just for interfering with a basic investigation.

There is no quarter when it comes to law enforcement. 0 tolerance. Especially doing it with an illegal device. They will use him to make an example, and I dont blame them. You know he will never do it again, and everyone else will think twice about it before doing it in the future. Its actualy a good thing because it will help keep laser incidences out of the media in the future.

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I agree TJ - the guy got what he had coming to him.
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The punishment fits the crime. It was a POLICE helicopter. You can get serious jail time just for interfering with a basic investigation.

There is no quarter when it comes to law enforcement. 0 tolerance. Especially doing it with an illegal device. They will use him to make an example, and I dont blame them. You know he will never do it again, and everyone else will think twice about it before doing it in the future. Its actualy a good thing because it will help keep laser incidences out of the media in the future.

There are no prizes for stupid.
Wasn't that "you can't fix stupid"....

At least you can give "stupid" enough time to think
about it why he is in the pickle he is in..
Maybe he'll figure it out if you give him enough time...

Slapping morons like that on the wrist is not serious
enough to hold the other morons at bay...
Examples are GOOD....

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A very painful lesson... But he asked for it.
Watching his actions first hand though, I don't really feel sorry--just look at that idiot running like a pu**y when the helicopter zeros in on him..
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In theory that's true, however consider what's happening when the helicopter is actually hit.

1. The beam is already traveling at least a few hundred feet, which means due to divergence it is no longer focused.

2. The beam hits an angled, at least somewhat reflective surface in the form of a windshield.

3. Typically all these incidents involve shitty pens that don't have a good initial beam diameter or divergence.

That helicopter was inconvenienced less than motorists are on a daily basis from other people driving with their high beams on.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if you watch videos of that particular situation, it seems as if at most the pilot is annoyed, and never in any danger.

This kids attorney should be fired for incompetence, and not challenging the law it self.
Yes I was thinking the same thing, I've been blinded by high beams at night especially by pickup trucks that are all jacked-up with the high beams running. Can very easily cause a fatal accident, yet because their not using a lasers; the cops don't even bother to pull these idots over.

I don't condone shining a laser at any person or form of transport, but simply seeing the light from a transport doesn't mean it's blinding the operater. As was pointed out the chopper was able to easily follow the idot doing it. They see a Laser and freak out..........on my goosh it's a Laser attack! which is nothing more than an idot shining some light in their direction; High powered flashlights can distract even more these days.

I think it should yes be Illegal to do so, but it is blown way out proportion in most cases. There was a video I seen not too long ago where the cops in a chopper could see a dim laser light being shinied into the air, they actually flew over there to guide the ground cops to arrest the idot for trying to attack an aircraft with a laser.....ridculious.

Never has one aircraft ever been "taken down" with a hand held laser pointer. IF it was actually that easy, every freakin terrorist in the world would take down and/or blind the pilots so they couldn't be attacked on the ground, rendering aircraft useless to hit targets on the ground, etc; it's simply not the case. Still though I think you should be heavily fined for being an idot to the illuminate an aircraft, laser or light; it's plain stupid.
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Wasn't that "you can't fix stupid"....
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oh my days dam nazi fascist racist pigs

he only got that as he was of muslim decent

4 year trying for 18 year wow u get the same for killing someone violently
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oh my days dam nazi fascist racist pigs

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Lay off the Salvia bro.

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