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Old 09-21-2011, 05:20 PM   #1
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Default Rifle 650nm from Lazerer.com

Here is a small review of the 650nm Rifle laser from Lazerer.com. link
For those who don't know, this laser's design was copied from the WL S3 series, but it is a bit smaller.
See this thread for size comparison: Rifle Host (Arctic Lookalike) 1W and 800mW from Lazerer.com Side by Side with Arctic
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Sept 20: Received Laser via USPS at my home in the Los Angeles area. Had to sign for it and hand-print my address for USPS.
-So, exactly 11 days from the day I placed my order. I think it would have been faster, but I placed my order on a Friday.-
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The laser came with a box and the extra lens kit, but did not come with a battery:


It uses protected 18650 batteries (left in picture below). A non-protected (shorter) battery (right in picture below) will not work (unless a spacer is used):

The laser has a reverse-clicky tail button:

It fits nicely in the hand (as it is a bit smaller than the arctic):

The sticker seems to be facing the side rather than the front, but it does identify the power and laser color (200mW - 650nm):

The laser is fully focusable and has a very smooth feel while focusing (tight, no wobble, stays put when adjusted):

Also, the 4 extra-lenses are simply diffraction grating lenses, and the stock one is just a cap with no protective lens at all. (see box photo above, bottom right in box for extra lenses).
Looks like 650nm color red compared to a Dilda (660nm) or a Rayfoss 200mW waterproof (660nm), but I have no means to test the exact wavelength, so I will just assume that it is 650nm in color. However, the beam seems to come out at roughly 2 degrees off of center (barely noticeable):


I tested this laser on my laserbee I and it peaked at 266mW on a fresh 18650 (~4.2v), and held steady at 260mW for over 2 minutes without the host getting warm at all.

So, for about $80, it is slightly expensive for a 200mW 650nm. But, the host design, being ~30% overspec, and arriving in 11 days make it worth it. I will surely order from Lazerer.com again.
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Default Re: Rifle 650nm from Lazerer.com

I was eyeballing that laser for a while now. Thinking, if I get bored of red, take it apart and make whatever I feel like making that afternoon.

Looks like a great laser anyway, and excellent review. Just one thing, can you measure the current draw of the laser? Oh and one more thing, a close up on the lens assembly up front? So I can see how the focusing mechanism is done, are lens changeable etc etc.
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could you show the innards?
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I haven't gotten it apart enough to see the driver board, and if you look down the battery tube all you see is a spring surrounded by a foam rubber insulating ring.
I don't think you can get to the driver.
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Did the batteries come with the laser on the same day?
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This laser did not come with a battery at all. Glad I had a spare protected 18650 battery.
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It would be good to see how these come when assembled.

I have a empty host here... and it looks like the diode is mounted in a large brass heatsink. The driver is then attached directly to the diode pins then it has a spring to make contact to the battery.
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Default Re: Rifle 650nm from Lazerer.com

I was just about to place my order for the same laser.but i did see on their website there is a 300mw 650nm red rifle coming soon! so im going to hang-on for a while until they have them in stock.But i do have a question in which i hope you can give me the answer.
What is the range of that rifle at night?
Can you focus that into infinity,example> 1km away and focus the dot on a far away building?

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The new rifle they are putting out is 638nm so it will be quite a bit more expensive but will be heaps more visible. The mitsubishi 638nm diodes don't have very good divergence/beamspecs at all and they are more like a line so im not too sure how big the dot (line) will be at 1km
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Default Re: Rifle 650nm from Lazerer.com

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The new rifle they are putting out is 638nm so it will be quite a bit more expensive but will be heaps more visible. The mitsubishi 638nm diodes don't have very good divergence/beamspecs at all and they are more like a line so im not too sure how big the dot (line) will be at 1km
Thanks for the reply,i noticed it was 638nm after i posted on here,and i think i will buy one anyway.hope its not going to be too expensive.but the host looks cool and the last red laser i had was 1mw so i think im going to be impressed with this one,lets hope so anyway.
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The new rifle they are putting out is 638nm so it will be quite a bit more expensive but will be heaps more visible. The mitsubishi 638nm diodes don't have very good divergence/beamspecs at all and they are more like a line so im not too sure how big the dot (line) will be at 1km
Understatement . LOL
The laser "bar" on the new 635nm Mitsubishi diodes is at least 24 inches across at 350 feet distance:
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Understatement . LOL
The laser "bar" on the new 635nm Mitsubishi diodes is at least 24 inches across at 350 feet distance:
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I appreciate the video & feedback here,Glad you pointed that out..The bar on the red laser is bad!! and what is your green laser and power please.good dot.that is what im looking for..
Can you recommend any high power laser pointer that has good divergence over a long distance (Km's) 532nm or 650nm under $300usd 170 uk pounds.So many lasers & companies out there i prefer to go with laserpointerforum recommendations.

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Can you recommend any high power laser pointer that has good divergence over a long distance (Km's) 532nm or 650nm under $300usd 170 uk pounds.
Nope. This thread is not the right place for "green" laser recommendations.
You should check out the "companies" thread. here
Or, get any laser from Lazerer or O-like, as they are highly trusted sellers and guarantee up-to-spec lasers.
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Very impressed with Olike. After reading - veiwing your reviews ordered the 405nm, 400mw. Being new to both the hobby and forum will stick to your advice. I'm
A machinist by trade and knowing that olike sells all the components before getting too far ahead of myself was hoping you would be able to reccomend or reveiw their power meter. They only have the one and it's within my price range. Thx again for sending me to Olike. It turned a frustrating cat and mouse game with bogus web sites and Canada customs into a new hobby. I'll Have another look at your reviews and builds. Much Apprereated for not treating me like a dumbass. I should have relied solely on your advice rather than post a thread I'll simply ask you.
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I wouldn't get that expensive meter at o-like unless you have a lot of money.
I would recommend a laserbee (at least 2.5W) or a radiant Alpha if you can find it.
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Ehh sorry to let you down guys, but Radiant Alpha has been discontinued and is no longer available.

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OK. Hope the Radiant "beta" is near the $130 price.
My Laserbee A is my favorite meter, and it was less than $140.
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