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This is precisely why I don't recommend those cheap goggles for $10 and such.
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Where exactly did those glasses come from? were they from a complete China laser kit?
Iv'e recommended HDE 's pair as back ups and or better than nothing for those who just won't pay for better ones.
I'm backing out now because there are so so many generic copies and its not worth the chance
There is a difference though and how silly ridicules on what i'm going to mention may sound I have a kit pair and also 2 HDE's that I compared.

Right from the start the cheap kit pair feel flimsy, has excess molding plastic flashes, burr's, sharp edges and the frame separated on mine. No marking whats so ever.

HDE's nicely smoothed consistent and tight frame and just more solid. Marked Ansi codes.

The HDE's lenses measure 2.4mm thick at the bottom and 2.2mm thick at the corner guards.

Kit pair lenses measure 1.3mm thick at most and 1.2mm thick at the corner guards. "This was average as the thickness was all over the place at spots on these"

Same with the frame with the HDE's at 19.5mm by 19.5mm at the side arms

the kits at 16mm by 14mm.

I'm happy with my HDE's and do use them with caution as mostly backup's to my "standard" Eagles and as I can't measure power protection all I can say is they do block my blue builds just as well by "eye" compared to the Eagle's.
I can't afford a burn through test though and yes I can't see them following Eagles QC during production for the cost.
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I noticed that the glasses were letting a lot off light through before the laser burned a hole in them. So even if the strike was only for a tenth of a second you would still be blinded. I'd like to see this test done with a LPM to see how much is getting through before burn through.
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I noticed that the glasses were letting a lot off light through before the laser burned a hole in them. So even if the strike was only for a tenth of a second you would still be blinded. I'd like to see this test done with a LPM to see how much is getting through before burn through.
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Would need to use an optical LPM, thermal wouldn't be fast enough to catch that before the beam burns through by the look of things.
Yes it would have to be optical. I don't know of any thermal that would even get started before burn through. I did the same test with a 2.75w 445nm and it was much slower to make a hole.
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Can someone try this with an expensive eagle pair. If people want to start a fund and donate money I'd give $5 for someone to try this on the $60 ones.
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Somewhere I think someone has, still though i'm in for $5
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I can give it a shot over the weekend, I don't care that much about burning a hole in the side of the goggles. I have tested up to 3.6W against eagle pair in the past, and against Uvex goggles from amazon (see my destructive goggles test).

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IE, you would wiling on a pair of Eagles?? I most definite saw your Uvex burn through but don't remember the 3.7W on the Eagles. That would be sure fine if you posted and wouldn't have to damage a another pair.

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The material seems to be the same on the sides as on the lens itself, so putting a small hole on the side, in the name of science is something I have no problem doing.

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I purchased a kit the laser was 405nm 1W and the glasses ware included but when i put tame on i saw no difference so i contacted the company and the told me the glasses are design to hold and protect your eyes from 10W 405nm to 455nm,
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I purchased a kit the laser was 405nm 1W and the glasses ware included but when i put tame on i saw no difference so i contacted the company and the told me the glasses are design to hold and protect your eyes from 10W 405nm to 455nm,
the 405nm laser burned right threw this answers newbies question about glasses.!,
I do have 2 pair wicked laser glasses and the block the light, just did not test the burn test i may do it
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Those cheap $3.00 red plastic googles will NEVER
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If the seller told you the googles would also stop
a .22 bullet.... would you believe that ?


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I noticed that the glasses were letting a lot off light through before the laser burned a hole in them. So even if the strike was only for a tenth of a second you would still be blinded. I'd like to see this test done with a LPM to see how much is getting through before burn through.
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This is a VERY GOOD test just to prove that one should always put their money (investment) into proper safety ware. I have exactly the same pair of glasses that came with a Chinese 1W 445nm laser purchased in HK, some 6 or so years ago. Those glasses while red plastic still allowed ~60-65% of the beam through. A direct strike to these and you'd have had a potential for eye damage. An indirect strike and you might fair better than not having a pair of glasses on at all. Still not very reassuring.

I have a pair of real glasses now that are CSA approved = OD 7+ @ 180nm-532nm.
They are quite expensive, but they are worth it.

Thanks for showing why cheap laser glasses are not worth it.
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I'm sure a high power laser will burn a hole through any plastic lens in a relatively short time, no matter how high the quality or OD rating. Remember that most goggles are for momentary protection only, not continuous direct exposure.
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