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Old 08-02-2011, 08:15 AM   #26
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I honestly tried to help Max and show how things work here, plus give him a game plan on he could possibly be one of the leading recommended sellers here. At first he seemed very interested, until it took me an extra week to get up the review. He emailed me constantly, and had no patience at all. He wanted me to to a quick review, and I told him I would only do a detailed review. I had to remind him I was the one who was helping him, and that he could keep the laser if he wanted. Things quieted down after that. His eagerness gone. Then after my review I got a short email thanking me, then nothing. IMO he is like the rest, looking for a quick grab instead of looking forward. We'll see how long he keeps the promise. I think the 5% discount for a review is joke. It takes time to do a good review. I wouldn't do another for the $5 - $10 you'd save.
Hi Mark,

I don't know what make your attitude suddenly change.....Isn't that we have a good communicate in email? Infact I just send you one email after I don't see the review comes up (few days after you say you will put the review on). It's not a reminder. I guess you are busying. I don't want to take you so much time on that so I ask you to keep the review simple. I don't think one email can be described as "constantly".....

After I got you reply you say you need time to do a detail reviews. I say I trust you and I won't send any email about the issue cos I don't want to be an annoying. And this become "quieted down after that" & "eagerness gone"...

Anyway, if there is anything that I made you misunderstand my meaning. I apoligized for that.

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We did have great communication. You responded immediately to all my emails, except the last one. Everything I wrote in that quote was honest, and true. What really changed my attitude was that I thought we were going to work together, like many other successful laser companies here. Like Hak, and Jetlaser, and others. It seemed that is what you wanted in the beginning. Then you got impatient rather quickly, and stopped taking my advice. After the review was up communication was dropped. Is this not true? I can post emails if you cant remember.

There is a formula on how to do business here. It takes patience to follow the formula, and even more to be successful here. There is a huge market on this forum, and if you dont do it right, you will fail. We've seen it happen 100s of times before. Its nothing new that a laser retailer promise everything in the beginning, and fail to live up to their promises a short time after.

The Vets of this forum have the power to make or break a laser retailers business here. This is why we only recommend one or two laser retailers out of hundreds when members ask where to buy lasers. I told you many times only honesty, and patience will work here. Offering 5% off for reviews will only flood the forum with crap reviews from every n00b who wants to save a dollar or two.

You can have my laser back if you want. I stand by everything I have written. People know this about me, and a cheap laser will never change that.

Good luck Max.

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Hello Mark,

I think our misunderstanding go deeper. I can say I treat you a "very important person" from the beginning to the end. And every advice you take. I remeber hardly.

Thanks for your detail review. That's a wonderful job. We will continue to present onspec lasers to our customer. Like what I say to you in the email. Have a nice day.

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We did have great communication. You responded immediately to all my emails, except the last one. Everything I wrote in that quote was honest, and true. What really changed my attitude was that I thought we were going to work together, like many other successful laser companies here. Like Hak, and Jetlaser, and others. It seemed that is what you wanted in the beginning. Then you got impatient rather quickly, and stopped taking my advice. After the review was up communication was dropped. Is this not true? I can post emails if you cant remember.

There is a formula on how to do business here. It takes patience to follow the formula, and even more to be successful here. There is a huge market on this forum, and if you dont do it right, you will fail. We've seen it happen 100s of times before. Its nothing new that a laser retailer promise everything in the beginning, and fail to live up to their promises a short time after.

The Vets of this forum have the power to make or break a laser retailers business here. This is why we only recommend one or two laser retailers out of hundreds when members ask where to buy lasers. I told you many times only honesty, and patience will work here. Offering 5% off for reviews will only flood the forum with crap reviews from every n00b who wants to save a dollar or two.

You can have my laser back if you want. I stand by everything I have written. People know this about me, and a cheap laser will never change that.

Good luck Max.
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I never said you treated me bad, just that that the outcome of the situation was not as it started. I advised you to wait till after a review was posted before introducing yourself to the forum, and to be patient. Did you do that? No. You signed up 3 days after I emailed you, and you exposed you were the owner of the company on the 26th, 4 days before my review.

I guess this will be my first and last review, LMAO.
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Default Re: Review Of The 100mW Grenade#532 From Lazerer.

Sorry for the double post.

All you guys please dont take me wrong. I'm not angry at anyone, or trying to bash Max, although it may sound like that. Max didnt screw me, or was disrespectful at any time. I am a little disappointed we couldn't build a relationship like the one Gray from Jet has with Hak, Glenn with CNI, and John from PA had with all of us. But I still recommend buying from his company. As long as he continues to sell on-spec lasers I would keep buying from him. Till the day he stops selling on-spec lasers. Its my hope that day will never come.

@ Borat. The IR diode is at the end of the module, which is pressed into the heat sink, which is pressed into the host. The head is just the focusing device, but may add a little sinking as its part of the host. So the heat sinking on this laser is equal to most of the other green lasers out there. I took the head off, held onto the module directly, and it hardly got warm after a couple of minutes. So its doing the job it was designed for.

Sorry for confusing anyone.
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Old 08-03-2011, 03:34 AM   #31
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@ Hick - That's almost exactly what I said isn't it? The heatsinking on this laser is fine, my only point was that judging how good of a job it's doing by holding onto the outside host is not a good idea.
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Old 08-03-2011, 06:44 PM   #32
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Mark (Tech_Junkie). Itīs a great review. I understand your disappointment, but keep in mind every new company wants a review to be posted as soon as possible.(best would be yesterday even before you got it) I have done a lot of reviews about PC parts for a pc magazine and also had to deal with new companies. So I also made my experiences with new companies. Just also keep in mind new companies often are doing some mistakes at the beginning. Especially in shipping items, not being patient..and so on.

I even had to pay taxes to the customs because some of them printed the regular price not mentioning its for a review.

I personally think you should talk with Max after a few things has been cleared up here, but on a personal level - not here in the forum. Maybe you both still will come into business. I hope so.

Itīs to you that my next purchase will be done at Lazerer.

@Max - there is a simple rule about writing reviews. At least between the companies and people who are working for magazines and doing it as their main job. Two weeks after the item arrived the review should be out. So people like Mark who are doing this for free at a hobby level will for sure need a bit more time. They have their jobs, family and a regular life.
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Old 08-04-2011, 04:30 AM   #33
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Hi honeyx,

I sent email to Mark clear thing up after my previous reply. Mark did replied me politely. He also privide me with detail tips on how I should handle my business.

IMO Mark is a very helpful person. He is a valueable resource to the forum. It is my pleasure to do business with him.

Regrads,
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Yeah I went to far at one point. I should have taken it to email, or PM. I have a habit of speaking my mind, but the review thread was the wrong place. Max also explained to me a few things I didnt consider.

Its all good.
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Nice you guys cleared that up. Like I said Iīm planning to order one when I get the money from the guys insurance who crashed my car. Just am asking myself if the name "Lazerer" on the parcel will not make the customs to take a closer attention to it. All the items Iīm getting out of europe are comming with a sticker on it saying "checked by customs" and the name "lazerer" might tell them itīs not a flashlight like labeled but indeed a laser.

Probably therefore also O-Like does not lable their parcels with an o-like sticker as the customs probably know they are selling lasers but no flashlights. Itīs not like with Dinodirect or Dealextreme who are selling everything, even their grandmas.

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^^^Picked up my packaged from lazerer today. I'll check what was on the outer cover - it's in my car.
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well done review, i was just looking at those and glad i found this review, im most likely gonna get either the 100mw or the 150mw from laserer.
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Mark the companies will throw their "reps" persay on the forums around like nothing... You know that Hakz (Len) is our contact with Jet... but you probably don't know that I was trying to get a Group buy ect set up between the forum and them... them and Hakzaw trampled right over me to do their own thing.... I had great contact with them and good things to come until Hakz GBs got involved, literally to the day thats when they froze up and communication between me and them became shit. It happens I suppose, when it comes down to it the Chinese just don't work like we do, respect and honor are meaningless for the most part. Wish it wasn't like that, but it is.

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does it still work now almost a year later?
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