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My experience with Jake21. Worth reading.
(please don't post here, there's a discusion in the general board about this)
One day I decided I wanted a blu-ray, and I looked on the buy/trade/sell board.
The first I saw was an offer made by Jake21 who claimed to sell fully asambled blu-ray lasers on the coleman host for 60$.
The price was awesome so I didn't doubt so much about it and just mseg him. Here are the messages (my questions are written remembering becausethey got deleted from the sent box, the answers from him are quotes):
-"You got any blu-ray left?
"yes i do u can pay here chevy2259@yahoo.com"
-"is there any guarantee? How long will it take you to ship it?"
"i can do a guarantee of one week due to my building and yes thats the laser for sale i can have it out tomorrow and ill use first class shipping add just a few $$ for shipping i think it cost alot to ship out of the usa "
-"okay, ship it and tell me how much did it cost and I'll add the difference. Make sure you use registred airmail. Btw, what batteries does it use?"
"thats is fine for the payment and it takes cr2 ill send the link in a sec"
-"Ok im paying now. If posible adjust the current to 130mA ok?"
"yea ill set the pot all the way down for payment log into ur paypal and send the funds here chevy2259@yahoo.com and email me ur address at the same email or on here ?"
-"I paid, are the batteries included?"
"it uses 2 cr2 i have to search for them lol"
-"So when are you shipping it?"
"no problem buddy im packing it up right now ready for tomorrow"
(days later)
-"Do you got the tracking number? I wanna make sure I am at home when it gets here"
-"hey buddy yes its been sent and im not home at this sec lol but ill get back with u asap on the transaction number "
(from here I got all the mesages quoted)
-"Gimme the tracking number aswell as the shipping fee I have to pay for the spanish shpiment
Send to hallucynogenyc@gmail.com because the new forum is giving some problems with the PM so lets move our comunication to the mail
Yours,
Albert"
"email me here chevy2259@yahoo.com im having trouble with this new site"
-"Quote:Originally Posted by jake21
email me here chevy2259@yahoo.com im having trouble with this new site
I answered you there but no answer."
"im searching through my files"
-"Quote:Originally Posted by jake21
im searching through my files
I'm waiting here for your answer, what method did you use? just to estimate the shipping time.
reply asap, I wanna go bed!"
"usps"
(days later)
-"Almost a week, can you please give me the tracking number? I really need it omg"
"i sent u an email"
(he mails me this: "here is the custom form number LC643212542US")
-"tracking number please? I still dont nothing"
"would u stop crying for god sake i sent u the custom id number"
"I'm not crying, I'm just asking for a tracking number just as I asked from the first moment.
And this my friend is nothing near to a tracking number. custom form number is nothing at all, try to track it yourself, it's imposible.
Yours,
Albert"
(doesn't answer, I email him this: "Jake, and is it so dificult to say "I could not use registred airmail because it was so expensive" instaed being a whole week telling me to wait a moment?")
(he doesn't answer, so I just accept he didn't use registred mail. I think nothing happens as long as the laser gets here)
(2 weeks later, nothing arrives, I open a paypal dispute. Some hours later...)
(Now all are emails)
"thanks for the dispute i told u if u dont get it let me no ill send another if u under stand that......what would u wantto close this dispute ?? would u take 5-6 phr and lpc sleds ship with tracking tomorrow? then that way u no its been sent ? i really need the money and i no u will end up with the laser to u have to get it time to get sent out of the usa "
(and one hour later while it was 4AM in the morning here...)
"well deal or no deal ? need to no so ican pack it up"
-"I don't need sleds, I want the laser I bought.
If you think the laser is really going to arrive (wich I doubt after three weeks) then you shouldn't care so much about it. I'll close it as soon as I get the laser.
Yours,
Albert"
-I sent the dispute to paypal once I had read the other guy experience (his lens broken etc) and I definetly saw i couldn't trust in him anymore and also because I recived a package from USA the same day wich made me see usa packages were not taking a month like jake pretended to make me think. end of the comunication via mail/Pm- I copy the paypal dispute messages (inverse order):
"De Comprador: albert el 21/05/2009 14:54 CEST
I don't want a picture, I want the blu-ray I bought. Once I got it the dispute will be closed. I'm sorry but it's almost a month since I ordered it and I've not recived nothing. If you still think the laser is going to arrive, don't worry that much, the dispute will be closed. Yours, Albert
De Vendedor: jacob lovern el 20/05/2009 23:25 CEST
i have the receipt would u like a picture of it ???
De Vendedor: jacob lovern el 20/05/2009 23:23 CEST
and what is the item i owe u ????
De Comprador: albert el 20/05/2009 15:34 CEST
I bought him some laser components wich I never recived. After asking for registred airmail to be used he used non-registred. He told me he was going to send me another unit in case this one didn't arrive so I open the dispute today just in case the unit doesn't arrive as it alredy happened once to me that the paypal dispute period passed and I could not get my money back, something I'm not willing to happen. Yours, Albert"
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After all this, today I won the dispute. I got my 60$ back and it was jake who loged in the account and refunded me the cash. he didn't even answered to this last messages and I havent heard from him since he offered me the sleds in change. I think he never shipped the laser and that's why he took a week avoiding the questions until he gave me a customs form number that i highly doubt that was for my package. Also because if you look for it onusps.com it says "Service(s): International Letter". I doubt that package could beconsidered a letter, honestly. Also, I think he just wanted to make time to pass the 45 days limit of paypal so Icouldn't claim.
CONCLUSION: AVOID JAKE21, IT CAN BECOME A TRULY NIGHTMARE TO DEAL WITH HIM.
(please don't post here, there's a discusion in the general board about this)
One day I decided I wanted a blu-ray, and I looked on the buy/trade/sell board.
The first I saw was an offer made by Jake21 who claimed to sell fully asambled blu-ray lasers on the coleman host for 60$.
The price was awesome so I didn't doubt so much about it and just mseg him. Here are the messages (my questions are written remembering becausethey got deleted from the sent box, the answers from him are quotes):
-"You got any blu-ray left?
"yes i do u can pay here chevy2259@yahoo.com"
-"is there any guarantee? How long will it take you to ship it?"
"i can do a guarantee of one week due to my building and yes thats the laser for sale i can have it out tomorrow and ill use first class shipping add just a few $$ for shipping i think it cost alot to ship out of the usa "
-"okay, ship it and tell me how much did it cost and I'll add the difference. Make sure you use registred airmail. Btw, what batteries does it use?"
"thats is fine for the payment and it takes cr2 ill send the link in a sec"
-"Ok im paying now. If posible adjust the current to 130mA ok?"
"yea ill set the pot all the way down for payment log into ur paypal and send the funds here chevy2259@yahoo.com and email me ur address at the same email or on here ?"
-"I paid, are the batteries included?"
"it uses 2 cr2 i have to search for them lol"
-"So when are you shipping it?"
"no problem buddy im packing it up right now ready for tomorrow"
(days later)
-"Do you got the tracking number? I wanna make sure I am at home when it gets here"
-"hey buddy yes its been sent and im not home at this sec lol but ill get back with u asap on the transaction number "
(from here I got all the mesages quoted)
-"Gimme the tracking number aswell as the shipping fee I have to pay for the spanish shpiment
Send to hallucynogenyc@gmail.com because the new forum is giving some problems with the PM so lets move our comunication to the mail
Yours,
Albert"
"email me here chevy2259@yahoo.com im having trouble with this new site"
-"Quote:Originally Posted by jake21
email me here chevy2259@yahoo.com im having trouble with this new site
I answered you there but no answer."
"im searching through my files"
-"Quote:Originally Posted by jake21
im searching through my files
I'm waiting here for your answer, what method did you use? just to estimate the shipping time.
reply asap, I wanna go bed!"
"usps"
(days later)
-"Almost a week, can you please give me the tracking number? I really need it omg"
"i sent u an email"
(he mails me this: "here is the custom form number LC643212542US")
-"tracking number please? I still dont nothing"
"would u stop crying for god sake i sent u the custom id number"
"I'm not crying, I'm just asking for a tracking number just as I asked from the first moment.
And this my friend is nothing near to a tracking number. custom form number is nothing at all, try to track it yourself, it's imposible.
Yours,
Albert"
(doesn't answer, I email him this: "Jake, and is it so dificult to say "I could not use registred airmail because it was so expensive" instaed being a whole week telling me to wait a moment?")
(he doesn't answer, so I just accept he didn't use registred mail. I think nothing happens as long as the laser gets here)
(2 weeks later, nothing arrives, I open a paypal dispute. Some hours later...)
(Now all are emails)
"thanks for the dispute i told u if u dont get it let me no ill send another if u under stand that......what would u wantto close this dispute ?? would u take 5-6 phr and lpc sleds ship with tracking tomorrow? then that way u no its been sent ? i really need the money and i no u will end up with the laser to u have to get it time to get sent out of the usa "
(and one hour later while it was 4AM in the morning here...)
"well deal or no deal ? need to no so ican pack it up"
-"I don't need sleds, I want the laser I bought.
If you think the laser is really going to arrive (wich I doubt after three weeks) then you shouldn't care so much about it. I'll close it as soon as I get the laser.
Yours,
Albert"
-I sent the dispute to paypal once I had read the other guy experience (his lens broken etc) and I definetly saw i couldn't trust in him anymore and also because I recived a package from USA the same day wich made me see usa packages were not taking a month like jake pretended to make me think. end of the comunication via mail/Pm- I copy the paypal dispute messages (inverse order):
"De Comprador: albert el 21/05/2009 14:54 CEST
I don't want a picture, I want the blu-ray I bought. Once I got it the dispute will be closed. I'm sorry but it's almost a month since I ordered it and I've not recived nothing. If you still think the laser is going to arrive, don't worry that much, the dispute will be closed. Yours, Albert
De Vendedor: jacob lovern el 20/05/2009 23:25 CEST
i have the receipt would u like a picture of it ???
De Vendedor: jacob lovern el 20/05/2009 23:23 CEST
and what is the item i owe u ????
De Comprador: albert el 20/05/2009 15:34 CEST
I bought him some laser components wich I never recived. After asking for registred airmail to be used he used non-registred. He told me he was going to send me another unit in case this one didn't arrive so I open the dispute today just in case the unit doesn't arrive as it alredy happened once to me that the paypal dispute period passed and I could not get my money back, something I'm not willing to happen. Yours, Albert"
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
After all this, today I won the dispute. I got my 60$ back and it was jake who loged in the account and refunded me the cash. he didn't even answered to this last messages and I havent heard from him since he offered me the sleds in change. I think he never shipped the laser and that's why he took a week avoiding the questions until he gave me a customs form number that i highly doubt that was for my package. Also because if you look for it onusps.com it says "Service(s): International Letter". I doubt that package could beconsidered a letter, honestly. Also, I think he just wanted to make time to pass the 45 days limit of paypal so Icouldn't claim.
CONCLUSION: AVOID JAKE21, IT CAN BECOME A TRULY NIGHTMARE TO DEAL WITH HIM.
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He never sent a sled I ordered 3 months ago...
