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Thanks Ehgemus, I think it turned out rather well. A large part of this is due to your work on the h.s./adapter. :beer:
 





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That really does look sharp with the Maraxis. I would like to know how big a difference there is between that unit and an actual non-clone. Most if not all of my mech mods are clones but honestly they are really impressive for build quality. The threads all seem really nice and the switches/buttons all work smooth except for the all copper 4nine units with magnetic switches. They work good but you need to really get the distance set correctly between the 2 magnets or pressing the button isn't real smooth as it can tilt a bit and not close smooth since it basically floats inside the tube. I actually am ending up with 3 of those all copper units to be able to use the pieces to make 2 18650 fit. I paid for 2 of them which was about $30 and with 2 you can fit a couple 18350 but since someone else sent me one I'll get the length I need for the double 18650.
I do only have the one fully built adapter but have a second empty one that I haven't put anything I to yet. Just having a hard time convincing myself to pull a module from an already built unit. Have some diodes ad drivers so i could build a module but am waiting on another part I need to really do it properly. Have been very tempted to pull the 1.5W 520nm from another build but I hate to do it as it took me awhile to decide on the host for that one to begin with and it wasn't cheap. Actually don't think I've even taken pics of it yet.
Can't wait for some of you guys to get your modules. If you do complete reviews of them somewhere else (which might be a good idea so others who are not following this thread will see them) I would still like your findings in this thread to try to keep the information together.
It looks like the post office may have lost one of my packages that had 3 Vamo extension tubes in them may be lost:( I've called the post office for 2 days now as they were never checked in at my local post office with the same delivery as 2 other packages arrived. Stinks as one of the adapters was the last one the seller had. looks like I'm going to have to order them from a different place I finally found after searching for a long time.
 
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That's a beautiful maraxus mod you got there. I have an all black one, but unfortunately it's a cheaply made clone and it has arcing and hot button issues. I might try to get some magnets in it to replace the spring button and see if that helps at all. Awesome beam shots too. Are you using an 18650 or dual 18350s for those beam shots?
 

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Pman, there seem to be many "clone" versions of the Maraxus mod, with most claiming to be "as good" as the real thing, who knows.
Visually, they look the same, with the possible differences being internal with the switch and contacts.
After looking at many sellers of the clone version, I have noticed that the size (diameter), and material seem to vary on the internals, some are using copper, some s.s., and some even claiming to use gold plated.

I think the biggest reason my mod can fit two 18650's, is because it's made up of so many sections, most of them being threaded at both ends.
A couple are threaded all the way through, allowing a lot of length flexability.

If I had some extra cash, I wouldn't mind getting a second Maraxus, just to see if I could configure enough of the pieces for it to accept two 18650's.

Depriesticles - Thank you sir! :beer:

I am using two AW 18350 batteries.
I have not noticed any arcing or overheating yet, but I have noticed that the 2+ W 462nm does get warm rather quickly.
I did use a small magnet between the switch and battery to override the momentary function, while I took the photos.
 

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Yeah one of the things I noticed right away is that there are so many different manufacturers making clones and they usually differ in the switch setup. It hinky ou meant to say your Maraxis can fit 2 18350. Fitting 2 18650 is why I think many will end up buying multiple mods or extension pieces if they exist for the unit you buy.
Someone had asked me about how to make the mods on and as you noticed it's pretty easy to do so you don't have to hold the button down.
i haven't checked the mail yet but it really looks like my second set of extensions for the Vamo V units are lost. Hesitating on pulling the trigger from the other seller I found that has them also has a really cool different version of them in stock but I don't know if using 2 of them will look better than the plain ones as the rest of the V7 doesn't have this twisted look. I did check the unit info. again and it will say "without atomizer" so for it to work I will need to select charging mode. Here's the place I found that sells the extensions and a few other things for them:

Vamo Body Parts

Here's the spiral ones:
vamo_v3_extension_tubes_all.gif


Here's the unit:
sku_23097_1.jpg


So I'm thinking it might look weird with a couple spiral pieces instead of the clean ones like this:
vamo_extension_tubes.gif


Not related but I'm so sick of good quality batteries being faked. It's created a market where the real ones get to sell for much higher prices.

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I JUST TESTED MY VAMO V6 FIRE UNIT AND IN CHARGING MODE IT ACTUALLY OUTPUTS JUST UNDER 6V SO IT WILL GIVE FULL OUTPUT WITH THE DRIVER:)
 
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Pman, thanks for the link. I think you're correct about the spiral extensions, I think I'd use the plain ones also.
Those spiral ones would probably look real nice on something else though!
 
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Pman, thanks for all the testing. Could you link to the pen that has VV from 3-6V? Can you confirm it does not use PWM? (see if there is no strobe effect if you move the laser very quickly at low power mode)
 

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I just tried it and it has a very low output (as in you see the dot) and then when you hit 3.9V it gets a beam. I can see NO signs of strobing like that V7 did at all (it was very obvious). I believe that jump in output has to do with the lasers driver. Heres a quick test I did for output:

-<3.9V = just see the dot and basically doesn't measure so <5mW
-3.9V = 35mW
-4.0V = 86mW
-4.1V = 142mW
-4.5V = 416mW
-5.0V = 931 mW
-5.5V = 1.54W
-6.0V = 1.86W

This is with an M462 using a 3-element and hits closer to 2.2W with a G-2;)

There are a few places to purchase this unit that I have found so I'll send all the links but the one I have was a good price and I think he only has 4 or less left. CAMe very fast. What you WILL want with it for using an adapter is a beauty ring like I showed and I'll give the link to them also. The larger ones look really nice and I just bought a bunch more today. They create a great transition to the adapter.
I'll also include another unit found that should work well too that I have on order. All I can say is get them while you can as the VV stuff is all turning to VW.

adapters:
510 Battery Adapter Ring | eBay

My 3-6V unit:
VV2 Mega Battery 1200mAh Variable Voltage 3V 6V Pass Through Accepts 510 Thread | eBay

THE 3-6V unit I have on order that you can actually change the batteries on. I haven't received it yet but I see no reason why this one won't work I bought the last one that came with 2 batteries:
Lrider Mini Lambo 3V 6V Variable Voltage 14500 Mini Mod USA Seller | eBay

Fasttech has a bunch of different colored ones like the the one I bought from the US seller but if you are going to buy from them I would hurry it up as they are going on holiday from the 16th -25th. The US sellers one like I bought has their company logo on it which is actually quite nice right below the button and looks better than the eGo label on the Fasttech ones plus if you are in the US you won't have to wait forever for a silver one. Just look on this page for the ones that say eGo-V V2 Mega as it is easy to make a mistake and order the wrong thing. Has to be the Mega ones.

Found 93 eGo (Product Type: VV Batteries) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Again, look at my pics as you WANT to buy a large dress top for any of these or they don't look good. The large caps look sweet. the small caps are just OK but they don't bridge the gap as nice. No comparison between the 2. Hey, they are really cheap also so buy a few and maybe a couple of these while you're at it to have on hand just in case from the same seller:
510 Battery Connection Adapter Extender | eBay

Don't know if you are in the US Atomicrox or not and don't know if the ebay sellers sell outside the US or not.

I'm really trying to help as much as I can and you're welcome. Can't even imagine the hours I have put into all this so far. Need to put in for my next WC travel check but I don't think they will pay it at least for a few weeks still. Don't know when they get the reports of proof when I go to my therapy. Will need the $ to make up for these recent purchases.

Going to try and stop by the local smoke shop tomorrow and hopefully the same guy I talked to on Tuesday will be there and I can try a few units out but no-one hold their breath on that one. I don't think he has any VV only units other than the ones that only go to 4.8V. Was NOT easy finding the couple units i posted that can do 6V. Remember that not all of the DTR units need 2c ells for full output;)
take another look at what BTG posted as the regular mods are great on their own and the rest is just gravy.

If anyone needs links to anything else I have mentioned let me know and I'll find them. Happy to help everyone but at the same time it's kind of exhausting searching everywhere. There was another person selling the eGo-V V2 units in the US on Ebay but I can't find him. He had had the black version but it was out of stock and only a couple silver ones and now I can't find him anymore.

This is what I mean by the logo on the one I got. It has one of the dress caps on the top from that seller that I linked for a nice smooth transition to the adapter.


I didn't bother offering less money for it by the way as it was a reasonable price.
 
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I'm not from the US. Fasttech is better for me, at least they have free shipping. Stuff would take a while to arrive anyways.

That one ego-v v2 mega is looking good for laser use, but you should be careful with those batteries. A single 14500 seems too small to power an M462, since the mod's driver will have to boost the voltage (increasing the current draw, which wasn't low to begin with). If that Efest batt is legit it should be OK, but it will drain fast.

The jump in output from 0 to 35mW is probably when it hits the lasing threshold. The output you're seeing below that is probably just LED emission (see if it has no speckle pattern on the dot). The 0.1V step seems good as well.

Now we just gotta find a VV mod without the time limit and I might move most of my lasers to those adapters ;)
 

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The M462 has an x-drive at 1.8A. The unit comes with a little fold out card manual that says that the AMP limit: 2.5A so unless I'm missing something there shouldn't be an issue. It also has a safety that I did test that says if you hold the button down for over 10 seconds it locks out and you have to push it 5 times again to reset. It also includes a nice little chart in it from 1.5 to 5 ohms on the vertices and 3-6V on the horizontal with color codings for optimal vaping. Will say that it's a sharp looking setup.
I'll check on the speckle pattern.
There is a Mega beyond the V2 such as V3 but then you get into it being a VV/VW unit and there might be issues like others have. I'm more interested in the Lrider mini lambo unit since it's the first one I've seen that is VV only with the replaceable batteries. According to the information posted by the seller on that battery it is supposed to handle a 5.6A continuous discharge rate and that is quite the output for a little 14500 if it's true. It basically cost me $11 for 2 of those batteries to come with it. Looks like he has only 1 battery left as you can't select 2 as an option anymore. The seller has no negative feedback and it looks legit. Shows it arriving on Tuesday but since it left yesterday it might show up Saturday. I just looked it up somewhere else and it's supposed to give you a fully regulated output such as 6V regardless of battery level (obviously up to a certain point). The unit has the nicer features such as a resistance checker also. Looks like a very good price from that seller.
I've found it very difficult to find straight VV units with up to 6V output and I'm just glad I found these.
Anyways, just be aware of the Fasttech deadline plus I'm guessing that mail stops moving in China also but that's just a guess. Hey, at least I found them and they are available somewhere.
By the way, in the V v2 manual it mentions there's also a regular one with the same ratings but it only has a 650mAh battery. They are actually called "REGULAR" and "MEGA" versions.
My bet is there's units out there that are VV/VW that will work fine and are not PWM but I don't have the resources to find out. If anyone finds ones that don't strobe we would sure like to know. is being PWM a cheaper way of making something and more expensive units probably won't have it?
I read a few reviews on these specific units and in them they state how great and unusual it is to have ones that can go to 6V but also how difficult it is to actually find them in Canada and the US so my troubles at coming up with them are justified;)
Just checked usps tracking and the Lrider will be delivered has a possibility of being delivered today as it hit the main distribution center late last night although it is more likely to be tomorrow.
Now usps says delivery is today and it looks like they have found my missing package:) We shall see.....

This is what it looks like with no readable mW with my Ophir with slight movement because even though I had the camera on a tripod I held the unit myself:

It was taken with the 3-element but not focused so that you can still see the "bar" in the center. Raising the Voltage to 3.9V it looks the same to my eyes but obviously too bright to take a pic at 35mW or so to compare with nothing to block the output.
Mail should come any minute now and I'll have the other unit to verify works the same way after I charge the batteries (only takes one though). Have to investigate the batteries to make sure they are legit. From what I have read so far there always seems to be a visible way to indicate this that doesn't require load testing but we will see. Amazed that the unit was ordered on Tuesday after 3PM from Washington state and it's being delivered Thursday in N.Y.

Got the stuff and the new Lambo adjusts easier than the Mega due to the buttons being above the "on" button and appears to work fine. Batteries appear to be legit at this time. Have to go lay down but I'll try and post a few pics later. See the seller of the lambo now shows 1 left and you can get it with 2 batteries now.
 
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P-minion presentation of 3-6V 14500 replaceable battery unit (LRider mini Lambo)












Again, you can see how it would look without the nice bridge piece:


Found this one that would look good and actually runs off 2 replaceable 16340 and you can select 4V, 5V, 6V which gives a decent range of output. Looks like there's only a couple left too:
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/231472907444?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&var=530732289969&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

The guy selling the Lambo one showed 0 left so I sent him a message about if he was going to get more and he said he just put 25 more up to sell if anyone is interested. He is out of the batteries that you could buy with them at this time. These are decent prices on these units and free shipping (at least in US). The Lambo guy said they get to people really quick because he ships from a major hub and it all flies out right from there. Still can't believe I got mine so quick. Ordered on one day past 3 P.M. in N.Y. and it arrives 2 days later in my mail from Washington state.
 
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Alright, got my module in Wednesday, but haven't had much of a chance to play with till today.

Both my provari and itaste mvp 2.0 work with it, and since I got a 638nm (presumably with flexdrive), there is no low power mode. And of course both have cutoffs.

The Prolase:



The ilase:

 

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Great that you got it and it's all working fine. What type units are those such as VV/VW? I can't tell if that first unit is straight mechanical or not with no adjustments. The more we can figure out and test the better.
 
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The first one, the Provari, is VV and the second, the iTaste MVP is both VV/VW. The Provari's has one button with a cycle-through-with-button-presses type menu. The provari uses 1 18650 and maxes out at 6V.

The iTaste has an internal 2600mAh battery with charge port. It also has a usb port with external charging capability. On the side is the menu screen with 2 buttons, one for VV, one for VW. I've only tested the laser on VV. This one goes from 3.3V-5V on VV mode.

The Provari I've got is several years old. Tough little mod. The new ones look different, but all are expensive.
 

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I just looked up that Provari and it's still available and sounds like a nice unit. Go to their website and they have a nice video on build/testing but they are pricey. Says that the time limit on them is actually 16 seconds instead of 10. Lots of colors, a GITD and titanium version too.
 
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The M462 has an x-drive at 1.8A. The unit comes with a little fold out card manual that says that the AMP limit: 2.5A so unless I'm missing something there shouldn't be an issue. It also has a safety that I did test that says if you hold the button down for over 10 seconds it locks out and you have to push it 5 times again to reset. It also includes a nice little chart in it from 1.5 to 5 ohms on the vertices and 3-6V on the horizontal with color codings for optimal vaping. Will say that it's a sharp looking setup.
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You should be fine with it then :)

It's hard to judge if it is lasing by the picture, but there should be a distinct difference from the LED emission - like a lot of grains in the center of the dot.
 




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