Rifle 1.2w 445nm.
Paid for 27/12/2011
Arrived in Uk 09/01/2011
First impression: Good delivery speed and Awesome!!
I've only had a 100mw greenie to compare it to so absolutely blown away by this. Focused, it bursts strong black balloons and lights matches (red ones) as soon as it touches. I lit a friends cigarette from 6 foot away and lasered my name through a Rizla packet.
When focused so I had a huge 'dot' on my wall, the beam/dot looks to be very ' clean'. I dont know how else to describe it,, bit like a circle with the top and bottom sliced off with no abnormalities or anything. There is a slight deflect on the lens ( i think? ),,, which looks like a small worm. As I was turning the focus it didn't appear to move.
The Rifle host seems quite solid but the focusing ring is a poor fit - its too slack and can move. This can make focusing tricky because you focus it to a nice thin beam at the point you want, but when you let go it moves, sidewards.
The Power Certificate states 1290mW. Until the next 'review' I had no reason to doubt that but I was in for one hell of a shock.......
Laserbee USB 2.5W LPM
This arrived a few days ago (Thanks Jerry) and as you can imagine I was kean to get testing - especially the 1290 rifle. I contacted Jerry for the software and instructions and following a good read of the instructions got it set up (very easy). I had a few of SwimminSurfers overspec greens 'n blus so I tested those first (warmimg myself up for the big boy...lol). I've put the results of those tests on Swims sales thread if anyones interested. I also have a 200mw greenie (alledgedly) which I tested. That only registered 100mw with fresh batteries and soon dropped to an average 60 - 80. (from Megalasers.uk - I won't be going there again)
Now for the 1290 Rifle. I put freshly charged batteries in, powered her up and watched the pc screen expecting to see it hit 1290. What did it say? - 645mw!!! - what the...!!!! So I ran a few (lots) more tests. The best it ever hit (and was a one off) was 800mw,,,and that was after running at 600mw for 20 secs then suddenly climbing again. I was so shocked at the results I thought the LPM must be faulty and contaced Jerry. He's not answered my messages yet but I'm assuming thats because my final conclusion its the Rifle at fault and not the LPM, is why.
I've run some more tests (fresh batteries) and the Rifles power seems to be getting lower.(400mw average) It is very unpredictable.
The LPM is a very good piece of kit. I had to wait 30 minutes for it to acclimatise to room conditions and zero properly when I used it this morning - but it was very very cold last night so thats fine and expected.
All the attached LPM pics are of the Rifle 1290mw (er,,no) with freshly recharged 16340 batteries as supplied by Lazerer.
And finally,,,, Lazerer Customer Service
Until I ran the LPM tests i've been saying Max/Lazerer is 100% trustworthy and a good company to deal with. They seem to get their products out quickly and there doesn't seem to be many complaints around here. I, for one, had no reason to think otherwise, and I still don't at the moment to be honest, though some doubts have arisen.
Regarding the faulty Rifle 1290, I've contacted Max and told him the problem. His response was...'Can you measure the voltage of each battery and the current draw from them? We are sure that all the laser is in on spec condition before sending out. Also when you turn on the laser will you see it dimming?
What I mean is the laser is bright when you turn it on and dim a little bit after 20-30 second? Any information will help. Sorry for the trouble. Have a nice day.' I got back to Max with the info he asked for on Sunday and have not heard from him since. I am going to open a Paypal dispute tomorrow regardless of any response from Max solely because the 45 day limit for doing so runs out on Thurs/Fri. This is no reflection on Max, I'm just covering my back and it gives me/us another 20 days to sort something out.
Back to orders/delivery time/chinese new year holidays. I placed an order on 11th Jan (uk time - 12th Jan in Hong Kong) and I'm still waiting for it to be shipped. On the Lazerer website it has said 'processing' since 11th Jan,,,though I got an email on the 31st Jan saying it had been updated to 'processing'. (what,,,again?) I don't mind that so much, but what does bother me is I know of at least one order placed around 31st Jan they got their tracking info a few days ago.
sidenote: I placed another order 31st Jan too, that still says processing.
Come on Max, you're slacking!!....'have a nice day' ;-)
Stay tuned, I will update this thread/post as and when things develop.
Update1: 7/2/12: Max has just emailed. He thinks (as I did) it may be a driver problem due to low current being drawn (0.5A when I checked). He also asked if I had other batteries to test the laser. I do, but they're actually not as good as the ones I got from Max. I've some more due (2 TrustFire RECHARGEABLE CR123A 16340 BATTERIES 880mAh TESTED HIGH CAPACITy | eBay) but I've no idea how good they'll be. If the drivers knackered I dont suppose it will make a difference anyway but worth a try I guess.
Update 2: 7/2/12 Just received email from Max. The Rifle will be heading back to Hong Kong tomorrow so he can check it out. He's '90% sure' its a driver problem after looking at the LPM graphs I sent. Apparently, the driver used should be very stable and should not produce the peaks shown on a couple of the graphs - so we'll find out one way or the other in a week or so hopefully. Very pleased with the service from Max at the moment. In the last email he came across as quite a nice fella with a sense of humour
Update3: 7/2/12 I'm not that patient and couldn't wait until tomorrow, the Rifle is in the post already and on its way back east. It should be with Max within the week (2-6 days if you believe Royal Mail - I wouldn't bank on that )
Paid for 27/12/2011
Arrived in Uk 09/01/2011
First impression: Good delivery speed and Awesome!!
I've only had a 100mw greenie to compare it to so absolutely blown away by this. Focused, it bursts strong black balloons and lights matches (red ones) as soon as it touches. I lit a friends cigarette from 6 foot away and lasered my name through a Rizla packet. When focused so I had a huge 'dot' on my wall, the beam/dot looks to be very ' clean'. I dont know how else to describe it,, bit like a circle with the top and bottom sliced off with no abnormalities or anything. There is a slight deflect on the lens ( i think? ),,, which looks like a small worm. As I was turning the focus it didn't appear to move.
The Rifle host seems quite solid but the focusing ring is a poor fit - its too slack and can move. This can make focusing tricky because you focus it to a nice thin beam at the point you want, but when you let go it moves, sidewards.
The Power Certificate states 1290mW. Until the next 'review' I had no reason to doubt that but I was in for one hell of a shock.......
Laserbee USB 2.5W LPM
This arrived a few days ago (Thanks Jerry) and as you can imagine I was kean to get testing - especially the 1290 rifle. I contacted Jerry for the software and instructions and following a good read of the instructions got it set up (very easy). I had a few of SwimminSurfers overspec greens 'n blus so I tested those first (warmimg myself up for the big boy...lol). I've put the results of those tests on Swims sales thread if anyones interested. I also have a 200mw greenie (alledgedly) which I tested. That only registered 100mw with fresh batteries and soon dropped to an average 60 - 80. (from Megalasers.uk - I won't be going there again)
Now for the 1290 Rifle
. I put freshly charged batteries in, powered her up and watched the pc screen expecting to see it hit 1290. What did it say? - 645mw!!! - what the...!!!! So I ran a few (lots) more tests. The best it ever hit (and was a one off) was 800mw,,,and that was after running at 600mw for 20 secs then suddenly climbing again. I was so shocked at the results I thought the LPM must be faulty and contaced Jerry. He's not answered my messages yet but I'm assuming thats because my final conclusion its the Rifle at fault and not the LPM, is why. I've run some more tests (fresh batteries) and the Rifles power seems to be getting lower.(400mw average) It is very unpredictable.
The LPM is a very good piece of kit. I had to wait 30 minutes for it to acclimatise to room conditions and zero properly when I used it this morning - but it was very very cold last night so thats fine and expected.
All the attached LPM pics are of the Rifle 1290mw (er,,no) with freshly recharged 16340 batteries as supplied by Lazerer.
And finally,,,, Lazerer Customer Service
Until I ran the LPM tests i've been saying Max/Lazerer is 100% trustworthy and a good company to deal with. They seem to get their products out quickly and there doesn't seem to be many complaints around here. I, for one, had no reason to think otherwise, and I still don't at the moment to be honest, though some doubts have arisen.
Regarding the faulty Rifle 1290, I've contacted Max and told him the problem. His response was...'Can you measure the voltage of each battery and the current draw from them? We are sure that all the laser is in on spec condition before sending out. Also when you turn on the laser will you see it dimming?
What I mean is the laser is bright when you turn it on and dim a little bit after 20-30 second? Any information will help. Sorry for the trouble. Have a nice day.' I got back to Max with the info he asked for on Sunday and have not heard from him since. I am going to open a Paypal dispute tomorrow regardless of any response from Max solely because the 45 day limit for doing so runs out on Thurs/Fri. This is no reflection on Max, I'm just covering my back and it gives me/us another 20 days to sort something out.
Back to orders/delivery time/chinese new year holidays. I placed an order on 11th Jan (uk time - 12th Jan in Hong Kong) and I'm still waiting for it to be shipped. On the Lazerer website it has said 'processing' since 11th Jan,,,though I got an email on the 31st Jan saying it had been updated to 'processing'. (what,,,again?) I don't mind that so much, but what does bother me is I know of at least one order placed around 31st Jan they got their tracking info a few days ago.
sidenote: I placed another order 31st Jan too, that still says processing.
Come on Max, you're slacking!!....'have a nice day' ;-)
Stay tuned, I will update this thread/post as and when things develop.
Update1: 7/2/12: Max has just emailed. He thinks (as I did) it may be a driver problem due to low current being drawn (0.5A when I checked). He also asked if I had other batteries to test the laser. I do, but they're actually not as good as the ones I got from Max. I've some more due (2 TrustFire RECHARGEABLE CR123A 16340 BATTERIES 880mAh TESTED HIGH CAPACITy | eBay) but I've no idea how good they'll be. If the drivers knackered I dont suppose it will make a difference anyway but worth a try I guess.
Update 2: 7/2/12 Just received email from Max. The Rifle will be heading back to Hong Kong tomorrow so he can check it out. He's '90% sure' its a driver problem after looking at the LPM graphs I sent. Apparently, the driver used should be very stable and should not produce the peaks shown on a couple of the graphs - so we'll find out one way or the other in a week or so hopefully. Very pleased with the service from Max at the moment. In the last email he came across as quite a nice fella with a sense of humour
Update3: 7/2/12 I'm not that patient and couldn't wait until tomorrow, the Rifle is in the post already and on its way back east. It should be with Max within the week (2-6 days if you believe Royal Mail - I wouldn't bank on that
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