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Here is a neat little host I got today and decided to do a little review of. Qumefox is planning on carrying these kits and I liked the look of it so I ordered one up. It is a side outtie clicky 18650 host with a finned protruding heatsink. It has a tripod mount(tripod included), custom focus adapter and a very well machined driver pocket/finned heatsink. Qumefox is a great guy to deal with, ships quick and does great work. When he said he was selling the first couple of units he had made I contacted him about getting one of them. We talked about the aluminum vs the copper and I decided that my main focus is visual appeal and thought the aluminum one looked the best. So I ordered it Monday night and got it today Thursday.

Here are some great shots of this host.






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The assembly of this unit is pretty straight forward. The addition of the tripod really is a sweet bonus for this host kit.








Here is what the build consists of. It has a tripod, battery compartment, switch housing, driver pocket/finned heatsink, Aixiz module with back cut off, custom focus adapter, PCB board with spring and some Flaminpryo wire.









You could use a few different drivers for this build but since it already is set up for a NJG-18 driver I went with it. It is a boost driver capable of driving a 445nm with a single 3.7V Li-Ion battery. It is a 5 mode capable driver that can also be wired for always on full power. On high I suggest sticking around 1350 mA without heatsinking modifications. Here is a thread outlining this driver.

NJG-18, multimode boost driver for 445nm.. and possibly 650nm








Now I decided to go with the driver wired for always on full power. I wired the driver up and put it on a test load and set the current. I know it says 1461mA but I ended up turning it down a little landing on 1350mA.









So I have my driver set up and ready to go into the host.

As seen here the driver will fit very snug in the diode pocket.

Next I wired it up to a diode. I bridged the case pin and the negative pin on the diode to bypass the drivers modes.








Next I put the driver and diode in the heatsink and used a couple of dabs of adhesive to hold the driver in place. Then when it dries push the module in the heatsink and use your allen wrench or T-6 Star to tighten the module in.


Now with the old PCB it had a little longer spring than the NJG has to make contact with the positive contact in the host.

I removed the spring from the board and soldered it to the drivers short spring.

It actually makes contact in the host really well.


Now the hard part is over screw the driver pocket/heatsink into the host.









Throw in a battery and screw the battery compartment in.












Now to the custom focus adapter. You will want to regulate how far it screws into the adapter depending on which lens you are using. I use a heavy bit of teflon on the very top of the threads where the focus adapter screws on. You will have to do trial and error to find where you want it and you want the tape to make it very tight so it will require a little pressure to screw it in. I also used a small amount of teflon half way up the threads just to hold it nice and steady in the host. I suggest screwing it in and out a few time and then cleaning off any frayed teflon. You want to make sure before powering whenever you have the lens off that there is no teflon that gets in the module or you could damage the diode. There are also other options than teflon.








Not that it is all put together you are ready to go.





















LPM TEST







I ran a test with an Aixiz glass lens and the result was 1257mW peak and with a G-1 I am sure it will push 1.4W.












Final thoughts



I am very impressed with this host. It is much more compact than I thought when looking at the pictures which is a plus in my book. It has a very aggressive look with the finned heatsink and the machine work is high quality.

One thing I did notice. The host fits my Sanyo 2600mAh unprotected batteries very well but it would not screw all the way in with my AW 2900mAh protected cell. It was just a little too tall. Keep this in mind when selecting a battery. I have not looked that close but maybe the positive battery contact point can be moved up a few mm to help in the fit.


The clicky is an outtie clicky which means that you can use it for momentary off when it is on with slight half presses. I did not get to try it out until I had already fully assembled the unit and most of the time it would be nice for a innie clicky that has momentary on from an off state but with this outtie it would actually work really well if I had not disabled the modes. It would make scanning through the modes very easy.


So that is it. Overall a very impressive little unit. I would not try to turn this into one of my superbeasts that run for long duty cycles @ high wattage due to the mass but a 2 minutes on and 1 minute off does seem to be fine for this host running @ 1350mA.


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Nice and clean build. Good pictures, easy to follow tutorial, solid work as always DTR!
I am impressed by how compact a 18650 host can be.
Also side clicky buttons are some sort of a rare bird.
Funny how the heatsink fins continue "faked" on the body....
Pity it relies on the Aixiz module, but I suppose it makes the host so much easier to fabricate.

All in all, me like a lot!

I need to get me some of those cheap boost drivers, but DX is sold out, and you
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I could make heatsinks with diode pockets, but they would cost considerably more due to the additional machine work required. I don't have a CnC lathe. Everything I do is the old fashioned way. And diode pockets need fairly high tolerances.. which means a lot more time.
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That's a sweet looking side button host!

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Again a super build DTR you make it look so easy and what a well done review, great pictures they realy make the review
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Cool! I thought that the host was a lot bigger until I saw it compared to your hand. I might have to pick one of these up soon.
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Yeah at it's widest point.. not counting the switch anyway, it's only .925" in diameter. Not really a whole lot bigger than an 18650.

And on the protected battery issue. This is something I knew about that aryntha told me but I forgot since I don't actually have any protected 18650's myself. I will be making spacers that will let the light still function with 'long' protected cells even though the end won't screw on 'quite' all the way. These will be available to anyone free if they have problems with long cells and need one. Though a more simple option might be to modify the spring in the bottom of the light. I'll have to see when I get some protected cells.. which will get here the same time as the batch of lights i'm waiting on.

I will note that this isn't so much a problem with my host, as it is a design flaw of the flashlights themselves. The Tank007 HC-128's that these are a clone of have the exact same issues. At least the tank's I have should, since the battery compartment dimensions measure exactly the same as these sipik's. But still, I plan on trying to find a permanent solution to the issue.
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Wow nice! thats really awesome

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Great build. I also thought this host was alot bigger. Like 3 times bigger. But thats even Cooler how small it is.
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Wow.... what a great looking host...
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that thing is pretty.
What's the black from between the fins? is it paint, powder coat, anodized?

also, is the heat sink itself threaded to screw into the host?
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Moh the heatsink/module does screw into the host body. I am not sure what he is using for the black painted areas.
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Nice work, both of you. I thought it was bigger too. I like the side clicky the best. The tactical rear switches suck.
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