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Default Re: Pioneer 8X Blu-Ray-- BDR-203

That graph is very informative. We finally see a knee in the power curve on a Blu. In the past, on reds, that knee indicated the limit for the diode. Also called the point of diminishing return.

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How very impressive!
Both, the tester and the tested one, did a great job.

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finally, a bluray more powerful than your 300mw mistake.
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Hey Dave, I can tell you how to raise the max input voltage from ~12V up to somewhere around 16V, if you want.
It just involved removing one component (the input MOSFET) and making a solder bridge between two pads. *It will defeat the input polarity protection, but I think you're probably careful enough
BTW, the whole reason I haven't made it past 12V input protection is the availability of a suitable MOSFET for the job. *The one I use has a combination of characteristics that allow for a versatile range of input voltages, but maxes at 12V. *There are some that will do 20V+, but the minimum input voltage is around 4-5V or so, meaning that if someone wanted to run an IR diode, it may not work... so I just stick with the one I have.
EDIT: *nevermind, guess you did that already... I didn't read entirely through to the latest posts *
I haven't done it yet. My bench PSU has a 12V setting. That's what I powered the driver with. The concern, of course, is with hosts that use three, AAA size batteries. That would power this diode fine, but would exceed the rating of the mosfet when fully charged. Most of these hosts use a battery carriage so reverse voltage is harder to do (not impossible, but harder). I think that I have a picture (from humansymphony or maybe it was drew) that shows the bypass.

I have an MXDL (DX #3405) with a Jayrob heat sink here I could use. Maybe I'll try to find that picture and run the "use" test in the MXDL

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Dave, you animal!
That is amazing! 8-)
You also said it has an open can red? Do you know if it is a long open can, or a short open can?
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Edit: Oh... I just read back and saw that you said it was a 3.8mm diode case. So it is a completely different red diode than we have seen so far. Great stuff Dave!
Daniel is going to make me a heat sink for the 3.8mm diode when he gets home in a couple of weeks so I can push this little red around a bit. The drive is only rated at 16X for DVD so it may not be worth the trouble, but we won't know until we look.

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Default Re: Pioneer 8X Blu-Ray-- BDR-203

can you imagine the tiny hosts that could be built with that tiny red? Usually the 3.8mm diodes require less voltage than their 5.6mm counterparts, so let's hope this one is no different!
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Someone with contacts over there --- Start a GB for sleds. I'm starting to drool !!!!

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Hmm. This diode looks very promising. I may have to get a few and test their spectra and how easily they can be made single mode.
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Wait...
You mean the diode is multi-mode :-?
That doesn't seem likely, considering it is in a 5.6mm package...
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Wait...
You mean the diode is multi-mode :-?
That doesn't seem likely, considering it is in a 5.6mm package...

Package doesnt matter.. I have yet to see a single mode 808 in a 5.6mm. Weather they are leadlight pumps or cheap china pumps, all multi.

I guess it depends on application, and what the customer requires.
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[quote author=Spyderz20x6 link=1236464366/64#74 date=1236835113]Wait...
You mean the diode is multi-mode :-?
That doesn't seem likely, considering it is in a 5.6mm package...

Package doesnt matter.. I have yet to see a single mode 808 in a 5.6mm. Weather they are leadlight pumps or cheap china pumps, all multi.

I guess it depends on application, and what the customer requires.[/quote]

How did 808nm get into the conversation about 405nm diodes?

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[quote author=WannaBurn link=1236464366/64#75 date=1236835902][quote author=Spyderz20x6 link=1236464366/64#74 date=1236835113]Wait...
You mean the diode is multi-mode :-?
That doesn't seem likely, considering it is in a 5.6mm package...

Package doesnt matter.. I have yet to see a single mode 808 in a 5.6mm. Weather they are leadlight pumps or cheap china pumps, all multi.

I guess it depends on application, and what the customer requires.[/quote]

How did 808nm get into the conversation about 405nm diodes?

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My appologies... It is impossible for the 405nm diode to be multimode cause its 5.6mm :-? Just throwing an idea out
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I doubt the diode is multimode as it is an optical drive but i very well could be wrong.
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From what I have read in the past, the PS3 sled diodes were multimode @ 5.6mm. There is some mention of it here... http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/Blu-ray/site1/diode.html

I doubt that these burners are using multimode, but I wouldnt base an assumption simply on package type alone.

*Edit. Not sure if it has anything to do with it, but there is corrective optics in the 4x, 6x, and possibly 8x that you do not find in reader sleds. There must be a reason why they are used, specifically in line with the 405nm diode.
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Multi-mode vs single-mode is completely relative. *Technically, every diode is multimode, there is always more than 1 mode in the output; it's really just the degree to which other modes are present besides the main mode.

There are numbers that can be measured/calculated to show "how single-mode" a laser diode is, something like a mode suppression ratio, which tells something like the ratio of power in main mode to power in any other mode. *You can do things like playing with external cavities to "get rid" of the other modes, and make a "more" single-mode output.

It's complicated, to say the least. And I suck at describing this stuff, plus they didn't offer the 2nd quarter of the laser diode specific course this year, so I've got a bit more to learn anyway.
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