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Old 11-25-2011, 05:27 AM #1
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Exclamation PHR Hotlight Help!

Hey guys need help with my PHR hotlight build. Firstly the diode is a PHR set at ~100ma with a boost driver. It is in a hotlight host. The schematic is something like this . The pill - . I personally think something is wrong with the driver negative touching the case. It works outside the host.


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Is it an 805 or 803.?

As the 805 are Case - and will not work with that driver.
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When you say that you think there is something wrong with the driver negative touching the case; do you mean the connection may not be strong enough for continuity?

The case is negative, so the negative driver lead cant short on the host.
The positive can though.

I believe you are on to something, though.
Check all of your connections and insulated parts of driver and leads for shorts.

Edit: Ah, I was not aware of the difference in pinout between the 803 and 805.
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OHH angles thanks, im not sure whether it is a 805 or 803, i will check with the seller. in the meanwhile can i make it out some way.
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Well you dont have to ask the seller i can tell you here.

Is the - wire from the drivers diode output going to the diode case pin of the diode.?

In other words are you using the Case pin on the diode.?
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Nope my diode doesnt have a case pink just + and -
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Oops I meant the 805 are case -. Not case +. Thinking of 635nm at the moment as im working on a 40mW now.

Yea it wont work because its shorting.
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^^^ That would make sense, lazereer.
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LOL. Are you using the case pin of the diode. There should be 3 pins on the back of the diode.

The Pin without the insulation is the case pin. Do you have a wire going to that.?

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There are only two pins????

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On a PHR.? Ive never ever seen a PHR with 2 pins only. They are 3 pin.

Hmmm

Can you take a picture of the back of your diode.

Sound like you dont have a PHR.

Regardless is the - pin on the diode not insulated.
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Woops there are 3 one, just looked close up. So if i am rite i solder the case pin to the driver LD -
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Yeap so its a PHR-805T and cannot be used with that driver unless you insulate the diode from the driver.
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Damn so what drivers can i use?
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Default Re: PHR Hotlight Help!

A Linear type driver running of 2x 10440 with a spacer will work great for that build.

Like a LM1117 driver for Example.

Or

A FlexDrive.

See these new 805 have the same pin-out as red diodes do. So you have to use a driver that the negative is running continuous.

Most Boost driver if not all that i have seen wont work.

Might be cheaper for you to pick up a PHR-803T sled then buying a new driver.
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