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Lightbulb Need help with diode soldering.

Hi everyone, I just wanted to know what is the fastest way to solder a laser diode to a driver because i'm really afraid of killing the diode because of overheating?
Like what to tin first ect...

I've searched on the forum already by the way, but really couldn't find what i need.

BTW, not really related but: Are Latex gloves suffisent to avoid ESD? If not, how can i avoid them without necessarily buying something like a wrist wrap?

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Default Re: Need help with diode soldering.

you can make a home made wrist strap from some wire and a bit of aluminum foil.

Latex gloves are insulators, and will actually increase the chances of static discharge.

just put some aluminum foil around your wrist, strip off about a foot of insulation on some old speaker wire, or old extension cord.

Attach one end to a known earth ground, and wrap the long stripped end around your wrist over the foil, twist the wire mildly tight, (not so much it's uncomfortable, but not loose either. You can even tape it down. It may look goofy, but it will get the job done.

practice soldering on some scrap wires, with a few practice joints under your belt, you will find soldering is not that hard.
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Hi Anthony,

Regards pre-tinning, most diodes used in builds here are going to be harvested ones so the pins on your diode are more likely than not going to have a thin layer of solder on them already. Pre-tinning any wires you're going to attach should be standard practice for any build anyway so the upshot of what I'm saying is pre-tin everything unless you're soldering to a quality PCB. I even tend to pre-tin any PCB connections too, just to be sure.

ESD is a funny one. Some diodes are more suseptible than others. BR diodes are known to be much more sensitive and, so I've learned recently, ESD can even kill a diode from your soldering iron so an ESD protected iron would help here. The only real protection for your own ESD is a wrist strap but essentially this is just a connection to earth so it could be argued that simply wrapping wire around your ankle and the other end to the water pipes in your house would be sufficient, (assuming they are metal and earthed to the electrical system as they are in the UK). I don't necessarily recommend that BTW! Edit: although Photonaholic seems to think it is fine as he posted just before me!

I couldn't answer you specifically as to whether latex gloves would offer protection but I suspect not fully.

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Thanks to both. Photonaholic, I know how to solder and I have soldered for many projects but I'm new to lasers and I know that laser diodes are extra sensitive to heat. That's why I'm uncomfortable with it, and wanna know how to be as brief as possible.
Plus I will be using a blu ray diode and I know they're said to be especialy sensitive to ESD, like Morgan said, that's why I was focused on them.
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Just quickly pre-tin your LD connections and your Driver connections
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Then solder one pin and let it cool down before soldering the next..
If you live in a modern house that has the 3 pin AC receptacles in
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Your desktop computer case usually has a galvanized raw metal back
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Just before you solder a connection... just touch one if these Grounded
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@Jerry, (Hi BTW), would touching any of these earthed points also work for a soldering iron that is not ESD protected? Can't see why it wouldn't but thought I'd ask directly.

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Yes I have those types of plugs and my iron has a 3 prong plug, then it should be esd protected.
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Just a suggestion ..... if you're afraid about your soldering skill, the better way to take care of this, is exercise .....

Just get fom some old circuits or *****ters some PCB, where you can find 3 pins transistors, desolder and cut them in the same lenght and size of your LD, then use the old PCBs, or pieces of it, for make exercise, trying to solder them, as if they are LDs, on the borders of the PCB (as usually are soldered diodes) .....

No matter if they're good or not, all that what you need, here, is to have some elements to solder as exercise, that have the same pins lenght and shape of a LD, so you can see how much time you need for do it, and find, with a bit of trial, the better system for do it in the better way, without kill your LDs .....

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No... I wouldn't recommend it... you will need a soldering iron that is
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Just rubbing against the electrical cord of your Non-ESD protected Iron
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besides the tip is (temperature) hot...
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Just a suggestion ..... if you're afraid about your soldering skill, the better way to take care of this, is exercise .....

Just get fom some old circuits or *****ters some PCB, where you can find 3 pins transistors, desolder and cut them in the same lenght and size of your LD, then use the old PCBs, or pieces of it, for make exercise, trying to solder them, as if they are LDs, on the borders of the PCB (as usually are soldered diodes) .....

No matter if they're good or not, all that what you need, here, is to have some elements to solder as exercise, that have the same pins lenght and shape of a LD, so you can see how much time you need for do it, and find, with a bit of trial, the better system for do it in the better way, without kill your LDs .....

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Just rubbing against the electrical cord of your Non-ESD protected Iron
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Thanks Jerry, I thought that might be the case! Damn, more expense! When will it ever stop?!!!

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I use a Weller soldering station that cost $200.00 way back
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Have you got a link to that one Jerry?

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Do you want to build a laser? But, you know nothing about what is needed, right? Then you need to try the, "I Want to Build a Laser", thread! Everything you wanted to know to get started and more! An easy guide as to what you need and why!

Another good guide can be found here from goninanbl00d - "First Build Guide"
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" ... Lasing on a sunny afternoon." The Kinks.

"Lasing on a Sunday Afternoon." Queen.

" Lase-y Sunday afternoon, I've got no mind to worry... " Small Faces.

"... Yes. It died during the night... So I cooked it! It was very nice." My Dad

Assembly services, parts machined and consultations for specialist builds available. PM me if you need something. Thanks.
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