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Old 04-24-2011, 04:03 PM #1
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Unhappy First 445 Build worked..but now it doesnt??

okay. so a few weeks ago i built my first ever 445 laser. or should i say. my first EVER laser build. . i was using A-140 LD, Jib's lm1117 driver and 2x GTL brand LR123A batteries. (same size as CR123A). i set up everything by using bhwollen's hotlight tutorial, since ive got a blue hotlight also. but i de-anodised it. anyway, lets get to the point. i succesfully made it lase. it was working till my batteries went flat. i know this because it would lase..and slowly get dimmer and dimmer till it outputed no beam. soo...i took out my batts and charged them fully...but after i put them in..my LD was LED'd...no beam..jsut dim light like LED...wtf? so i took everything apart and tried to redo the whole build. and now there is NO output.. the jib diver had exposed wires. i think i must of shortened the diver, but jib tells me that hiis drivers have protection against that sort of thing. he says it might be a bad driver so i send him it so he can test it. but im wanting to know if there is any damage done to the diode from this whole mess up :P.


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protection against shorting?
or do you mean.. protection against overheating.. (thermal pad)
ya i dont think your suppose to let the battery over discharge..
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protection against shorting. and what do you mean dont let the battery over discharge? i hadnt mentioned anything about discharging the batteries.
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Over discharged the batteries, so the protection circuit kicked in...Get New batteries, and send those to another member to have the protection circuit removed, and the batteries properly recharged.
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my mdx host was shorting on my jib driver, it got hot the heatsink shifted to make contact with the wall, shorting to case nuetral, my diode was led until I correceted them, I have 2 GTL 1230mw/h 3.6 lr123a, if your batts are the same as mine they are not protected. I would check for a short.


well gonna add i dont think they are protected mine are the short version all the protected are about 1 or 2mm longer, :P in case im wrong

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Did you send out the driver to Jib to test it like he said on the other thread? If so, did you hear anything back? When I was helping you over there, you never said that you had a full battery run before it went dim.....
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@ rocket689 yes ive sent him the driver back to get it tested. but its been 5 days so i havent heard anything yet. it normaly takes a week or so for delivery time. and yeah, my batteries where full. but then it got flat quite fast. however i just remembered that before connecting my batteries i had put them in my pocket, and one of them got insanely hot. im assuming something else in my pocket was shorting out the batteries.

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yes mine are the same batteries apart from mine are 1800mAh,

i guess i will just need to wait and see what jib has to say. if its not the driver, then i will try and protect evey component and try again. if that fails as well. then the diode is fried.
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a 1800mah 16340 battery?
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no GTL lr123a
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16340 is the same size as a cr123a. You say your battery is the same size as a cr123a. I was thinking the same thing. That mah is pretty high for a cr123a. I've never seen higher than 1000 mah.
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okay nvm about the mah, i need this to be solved, i made a custom build lm317 constant voltage driver. @ 300mA and the diode did not lase. the diode must be broken.
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okay, ive found out that my batteries are dead. i charged them overnight. one is 0.00v and the other is 0.36v....that has got to be the problem.. but il see what jib has to say about the driver i sent him.
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okay, problem solved, diode works, i made my custom TS317 based driver. added 2new cr123a and 2x AA batteries thats 9v altogether running at 560mA and almost oblitirating everything in its way
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hehe thanks . yeah the driver is probably fine lol. at the moment my laser is hooked up to a prototype board so its not portable . but ohwell. :P
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