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Old 06-13-2008, 09:51 PM #1
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Default DX Phone LED Lamp

ok, i've found this on DX:

8 LED Phone Line Powered Lamp with AAA Battery Bay
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1161





i was wondering if i could get some help with electronics, i really want to build one for myself (i know where to buy components in argentina, i know how to do PCBs, i just need help WITH the PCB, i dont know the circuit nor the components i have to use).

does anybody know how to do it?

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Default Re: DX Phone LED Lamp

I googled how many volts there is in the phone-line and it's tricky. 40 to 90 volts!


Can't you just take an old phone-charger/adapter instead to power your LED's? It would be the best option IMO. :-/
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huh? phone charger?

do you mean, gutting a wired phone and getting the STUFF that powers it?


i measured the voltage of my phone's line yesterday and it read 46,3v (+-1v). but maybe when it gets a signal it jumps to 90v, but IDK.
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Default Re: DX Phone LED Lamp

IDK either!

What I meant was a cellphone-charger, about 5v and hook up some resistors (the value depends on the LED's and charger). But your idea might also work, if you find some lower voltage on the board I guess.

You will only use this as a light or what? :-?


BTW, what is this, free energy?!
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IDK either!

What I meant was a cellphone-charger, about 5v and hook up some resistors (the value depends on the LED's and charger). But your idea might also work, if you find some lower voltage on the board I guess.

You will only use this as a light or what? :-?


BTW, what is this, free energy?!
lol, it is free electricity supply (you dont pay it from the telephone company)

i need it to work with the phone's jack because the infrastructure on my zone is HORRIBLE and we get blackouts every week, im tired of buying candles..

http://www.zippyvideos.com/774198191...ss_the_street/
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Awesome, free frickin' energy! 8-)


Ok, find an old phone like this one (or something else IDK):

Not something crazy modern because the board on that will be a nightmare.



And not this:

(Duh :)


Take out the board, post some pics of it and try to find a lower voltage. Somewhere around 5-15 volts should be fine.
Oh, don't take my word for anything, I'm only saying what I would do.


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That's really interesting, never thought of that.

What I'd really like to see is someone with the right transformers and circuits to actually make a powerpoint equivalent from their phoneline

Now THAT would be awesome
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Just be aware that when the phone rings, the voltage is around 100V pulsed at 20Hz.
Could fry some of your components if you design for 5-10V only.
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I was thinking about that too, but if there's some IC's on the board, I suspect that they are power with maybe 5v at all time. Should be easy to check.

One other problem would be if this thing makes a big-@$$ phone-bill or something. But I guess that all you'll need to do is to cut off the other wires that goes into the socket to be safe.
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I will look for some old phones later


IC's? internet capacitors ? current control?



yeah i've heard that when the phone rings it goes to around 120v. so i dont really know how to design it to detect that and be able to perform on both voltages..
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IC = Integrated Circuits. Google for some pics so you can recognize them.
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lol, i knew it i knew it!!!

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KipKay posted a video about this.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/868499...n_electricity/
Some people say in the comments that it is illegal and that the telephone companies can detect it.
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Hum, maybe KipKay is God? :-X I can't believe I missed that one.

BUT, the circuit seems to be designed for that particular light and isn't the lm317-regulator limited to 37v max?

I wouldn't worry about the phone company - LED's don't need much power to work, not more than a phone :. And if the phone guys find out anyway (geez how?), just make a lame excuse LOL!
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Lol, yeah.
I would highly doubt that an LED Lamp would be detectable, (As most phones have LEDs in them!) but it's use during a blackout would not be too useful as you could have a flashlight with much higher brightness, and a little more portability.
I don't know about KipKay's circuitry, we already know how he makes us burn out laser diodes..
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I dont CARE about the phone company.

they dont regulate anything, they just want you to pay the billZ



oh, and i cant see kipkay's vid.


why hasnt anybody else answered this thread


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