is it possible to ignite explosive stuff with this?

Dvorhagen said:

I doubt many people have a jug of 16 molar nitric acid sitting in their garage.

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I have some! I used to work in a gold mine and I have about a pint left.

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Lasers and Masers said:

hahahahahah that cracks me up, thanks Giorge.

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kruser495 said:

gunpowder is different than blackpowder (Kno3,S and C). blackpowder is typically used for making black-match fuse. dont use gunpowder for it.

it will also depend on the quality of your blackpowder. ive seen crappy bp only go up with a blow torch but the guy had no clue what he was doing. may i ask what type you want it for? HE will certainly work no matter the color as long as it is a primary. cause you cant detonate an high explosive unless a. you have a blasting cap which has a primary inside or b. you are igniting a primary by itself. but i wouldn't mess with much of that especially primary's as those are very sensitive. that's why blasting caps contain a primary explosive because it will detonate with a fuse flame and will then set off the the other secondary HE

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Drew said:

No one should play with primary explosives, they are extremely dangerous. A few specks on the fuse and the whole thing blows up before the fuse even lights. Detonation is faster than the speed of sound. Fireworks and gunpowder (smokeless powder) will ignite easily with a high enough power laser. Stand back a safe distance and follow the precautions on the fireworks. I agree with the "don't drink and lase" and I'll add don't drink and play with fire. I speak from experience (learning the hard way/stupidity)

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kruser495 said:

that is why i didn't advise using a primary. i know what detonation is. i speak from experience also as i have studied these things in college. and no a primary the size of a spec of dust on a fuse will not do much but make a little snap depending on what it is. the only primary i carefully"messed" with in less than 100mg quantities was klco3 and red phosphorus which is extremely shock sensitive and can detonate by blowing on it.. but i wet mixed it and used a laser to detonate it. do not, i repeat do not use any type of primary unless you know full well what your doing. i simply stated that the more stable primary's are used in blasting caps to set off HE

kruser495 said:

It sounds like you you have a good grasp on this stuff and I mean no disrespect but studying is not experience and flash powder is not primary high explosive. Shock tube is plastic tube lined with a superfine dust of HE used to set off blasting caps, so it does work. The dust going off won't hurt you but it's SCARY when the cap blows up with 6" of fuse left, good thing there was a foot to start with. I stick to Pvr0d*x now, almost as fun, exponentially safer, and a lot less illegal. Thank you for advising against, I'd hate to see any of the nice people here to get hurt, including you.

Model rocket ignitors work better than a light bulb when a laser's not handy

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Drew said:

kruser495 said:

that is why i didn't advise using a primary. i know what detonation is. i speak from experience also as i have studied these things in college. and no a primary the size of a spec of dust on a fuse will not do much but make a little snap depending on what it is. the only primary i carefully"messed" with in less than 100mg quantities was klco3 and red phosphorus which is extremely shock sensitive and can detonate by blowing on it.. but i wet mixed it and used a laser to detonate it. do not, i repeat do not use any type of primary unless you know full well what your doing. i simply stated that the more stable primary's are used in blasting caps to set off HE

It sounds like you you have a good grasp on this stuff and I mean no disrespect but studying is not experience and flash powder is not primary high explosive. Shock tube is plastic tube lined with a superfine dust of HE used to set off blasting caps, so it does work. The dust going off won't hurt you but it's SCARY when the cap blows up with 6" of fuse left, good thing there was a foot to start with. I stick to Pvr0d*x now, almost as fun, exponentially safer, and a lot less illegal. Thank you for advising against, I'd hate to see any of the nice people here to get hurt, including you.

Model rocket ignitors work better than a light bulb when a laser's not handy

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i should started by saying i have been in the demolition business for over 4 years and have a major in chemistry.
i am very aware of the det cord they've used since developed for the purpose of acting as a blasting cap and being more reliable then electrical setups when you have to have something go off within milliseconds of each other, but the fact of the matter is is that even today blasting caps are still needed to set off certain HE's for use in demolition.

i never once said flash was primary but armsrtong mix is. back then when det cord wasnt available they used a sensitive primary to set off he.

all my experiments with explosives were dated in 13 years of age through college. now i have a license. but i have lots of experience. i have made everything from homemade rocket fuel,fp, blackpowder(which isnt easy to get perfect), TATP, HMTD,TNT, and various others used in demolition such as ANFO

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kruser495 said:

Drew said:

i should started by saying i have been in the demolition business for over 4 years and have a major in chemistry.
i am very aware of the det cord they've used since developed for the purpose of acting as a blasting cap and being more reliable then electrical setups when you have to have something go off within milliseconds of each other, but the fact of the matter is is that even today blasting caps are still needed to set off certain HE's for use in demolition.

i never once said flash was primary but armsrtong mix is. back then when det cord wasnt available they used a sensitive primary to set off he.

all my experiments with explosives were dated in 13 years of age through college. now i have a license. but i have lots of experience. i have made everything from homemade rocket fuel,fp, blackpowder(which isnt easy to get perfect), TATP, HMTD,TNT, and various others used in demolition such as ANFO

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Sounds made up. Someone in the demo business should know the difference between shock tube and detcord. Shock tube is only 3mm in diameter and acts as an initiator/synchronizer that does not actually burst the tube. 1 lb. of hmx will make 14 miles of shock tube. It would take 300lb. of petn to make 14 miles of detcord, the thin 25 grain cord. Detcord is a thick explosive fuse that is commonly used as the final charge. All high explosives that aren't primary's need an initiating shock to detonate, sometimes also a booster. Potassium chlorate and fuel= flash powder.

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Drew said:

kruser495 said:

Sounds made up. Someone in the demo business should know the difference between shock tube and detcord. Shock tube is only 3mm in diameter and acts as an initiator/synchronizer that does not actually burst the tube. 1 lb. of hmx will make 14 miles of shock tube. It would take 300lb. of petn to make 14 miles of detcord, the thin 25 grain cord. Detcord is a thick explosive fuse that is commonly used as the final charge. All high explosives that aren't primary's need an initiating shock to detonate, sometimes also a booster. Potassium chlorate and fuel= flash powder.

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sounds like you dont know what your saying. det cord is usually not used as the "final charge". we only use det cord on smaller walls or small columns. everything else is drilled and packed with tnt or other secondary's. also, boosters aren't used because a particular he is hard to initiate, its because its economically efficient as primary's are more expensive and more dangerous to handle. you can set off any he with enough primary (not tertiary explosives like anfo which require a secondary to detonate) . but that much would be dangerous to handle and very expensive so they use a primary like lead styphnate (common primary used in blasting caps) and a booster like rdx or petn .

and no, "potassium chlorate and a fuel" does not equal flash. KCL03 and mg or German dark aluminum equals flash. but using sugar for a fuel creates a propellant. red phosphorus and kcl03 also creates a sensitive primary.


btw i know what shock tube is and what its used for. i was all drugged up on my pain meds when i typed that.

lets just end this as this is a laser pointer forum, not explosive

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