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So far that has given me the cleanest lens...
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The lens pen micro pro

I have cleaned dozens of lenses with this and still works better that the qtip and chemical. Gentle wiggle and twist and a blast of compressed air good to go. And I am OCD about this.
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Accutronitis are you making a joke about the soapy water?

If it's a joke you are making then you should say so when asked, because if you carry on with it then it looks like trolling.....the reason why is because thousands of people who are not posting are reading and we hate to give bad information so if it's meant as a joke please say so right away.

p.s. Laser lens cleaning is tricky and not all lens are the same, acrylics I hate to even touch and a camel hair brush....lol I am laughing because I know that would ruin them, but some new hobbyist looking for info may not know any better and may ruin their lens, so if you are venting frustration with levity then please make that clear when first asked so we don't give anyone bad information, and never joke about safety, laser safety is serious and must be respected at all times, god forbid someone gets hurt from something they read on the internet, but it won't be here.
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Please go back and read my posts in order and it will all be clear....
Really you can just start with this one....
Soooooooo when that wasn't working as I thought I came up with this......
Because I had to do something, Right ?

Now can you please give the whole "troll" thing a rest already, Please ?
You made it sound that you had been using this BEST method for
a long time...
Perhaps you should have stated that you only found this method
since you posted the useless Clay method..

So basically you have no long term results of this BEST method
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Probably based upon plastic watch crystals and imaginings, not knowledge about lasers and optics for same, no doubt.

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Accutronitis are you making a joke about the soapy water?

If it's a joke you are making then you should say so when asked, because if you carry on with it then it looks like trolling.....the reason why is because thousands of people who are not posting are reading and we hate to give bad information so if it's meant as a joke please say so right away.

p.s. Laser lens cleaning is tricky and not all lens are the same, acrylics I hate to even touch and a camel hair brush....lol I am laughing because I know that would ruin them, but some new hobbyist looking for info may not know any better and may ruin their lens, so if you are venting frustration with levity then please make that clear when first asked so we don't give anyone bad information, and never joke about safety, laser safety is serious and must be respected at all times, god forbid someone gets hurt from something they read on the internet, but it won't be here.
Probably not meant as a joke just a typical daydream based on lack of knowledge and/or misperceptions about lasers and optics for same.

You are 100% right LPF is not a general chat type forum--it is a narrow laser and laser related forum and technical knowledge data base.
A lot of people look to LPF for real answers and knowledge. This sort of myopic self-absorbed world comment and misinfomation generated from it, is a disservice to the LPF community, the credibility of the LPF data base and misguiding to others/lurkers looking in who may not know any better.

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No I am not joking about using soapy water with my single glass lens g-2 lens ? Is there something wrong this this ?


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looking at the lens surface under a 40x stereomicroscope with light above and below it, And looking at the laser passing through the lens projected on a wall after cleaning, is there a better way to evaluate how clean a lens is than looking at it ?

AND I would never joke about something that could hurt someone !!!
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Hey Accutronitis, can you take pictures through the scope? I'd love to see the results first hand. Sounds awesome!
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Yes with half way ok results because my micro scope is not design for taking picture so I must position the lens looking though one eye piece of a stereo microscope and focus it and at the same time I have to hold the camera lens to the second eye piece lens without letting the two touch each other and I must center the camera lens over the eye piece lens again without letting the two lens touch each other AND THEN without moving anything push the button on the camera to take the picture........ That all...........

And really only looking though only one eye piece of a stereomicroscope is frankly half of the real picture.....
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If you leave any kind of soap residue on the inside surface of that lens then your diode could cause it to outgas and deposit on the diode's window.

I remember a commercial for a no water spot dish soap, and Windex is supposed to be streak free, but we are talking about more than the cost of the lens here, I would like to know for sure, although I am going to try out the SEBP, but if I washed with water and soap I would disassemble the lens and be sure everything is dry before screwing it into my laser.

This would be especially important with a 3 element lens.

Seriously, I don't even take my lens out of the laser on a rainy night, I had an M-140 go foggy inside on a rainy night and when I removed the lens in my air conditioned room without letting the heated laser cool down the diode window cracked.
This is another reason I like using the beam expanders, they protect the optical train that much more, and although the hair dryer may be ok with a single element I would disassemble a 3 element.

Actually dunking it in the sink without taking either lens apart just doesn't make sense. If you want to wash the lens barrel it should be disassembled anyway.


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If you leave any kind of soap residue on the inside surface of that lens then your diode could cause it to outgas and deposit on the diode's window.

I remember a commercial for a no water spot dish soap, and Windex is supposed to be streak free, but we are talking about more than the cost of the lens here, I would like to know for sure, although I am going to try out the SEBP, but if I washed with water and soap I would disassemble the lens and be sure everything is dry before screwing it into my laser.

This would be especially important with a 3 element lens.



What could go wrong?

I 100% agree with that.... Only the first time I tried it with my single glass lens I didn't disassemble it by taking out the one retaining ring and removing the single glass lens but I was sure everything was 100% dry before first looking at it under a 40x stereo microscope and then testing it in the laser......
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I've got a problem with your cleaning method:
have you heard of water spots? Not everyone has distilled water coming from the tap like you claim to have.

I've got 2 problems with your evaluation method:
What other cleaning methods have you compared it to thusfar? Did you try this one, and the clay, and determine "this is the best one", or are there others?
What is your sample size? One lens?
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I've got a problem with your cleaning method:
have you heard of water spots? Not everyone has distilled water coming from the tap like you claim to have.

I've got 2 problems with your evaluation method:
What other cleaning methods have you compared it to thusfar? Did you try this one, and the clay, and determine "this is the best one", or are there others?
What is your sample size? One lens?
I said that I've tried so far, Not the best there is or will ever be, Come on stop trying to put words in my mouth....

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Who arguing ? I think I've made it very clear I've only tried a few ways ? pardon the pun.....
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