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Hey Guys,

I'am new on this forum so please forgive me my stupid questions:D
I bought a 1-1.3W 445 laser from Survivallasers, i see a lens on this site that claims to increase the output with 10-15% wat looks good for my litle project that is to buy or build a laser that is powerful enough to burn at a distance.

I look't at some vids on youtube where a guy is popping baloons with the help of a telescope, some use beam expanders what do you guys think that will work best to burn somthing at a distance and what is the longest distance that is posible with some of these options.



The reason is this:
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These are taking over our complete village the destroy houses and drive everybody craizy with there noise, they also drive al birts away.
Last year i shot a few but that is pretty dangerous thats wy i need more than a friendly laser i need a deadray :D
 
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You won't be able to set fire to the birds with a handheld laser, unless maybe you tie the bird down first.:crackup:
They might get scared off by the bright beam though, but maybe green would be better for that, I don't know honestly....
 
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They WILL get scared off by it. Birds see colors and changes in environment MUCH better than humans do. The idea of you wanting to slowly fry a bird or any other animal that actually has a functioning brain with a laser, even if it's a pest...I don't like.
 
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Before the complete leftwing will point there fingers at me, farmers here shoot them i will warn them, and yes it may scare them a litle thats all.
 
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Well then get a pellet gun, either pump action or co2. It's not leftwing to think that a 1w 445 focused on a bird (somehow until it dies) is mean. Or a .22 rifle if where you live allows you to shoot on your property with it.
 
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Ok the point is clear, but shooting is not an option just to many of these.
 
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If shooting is not an option, how would a thin (albeit horrible divergence) laser beam be a better option...Have you even asked yourself this question?
 
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If shooting is not an option, how would a thin (albeit horrible divergence) laser beam be a better option...Have you even asked yourself this question?

That is the question he is asking us.

@Dutch
The laser may be able to scare off the birds. The lens you refer to won't make much of a difference, though.
The problem is, they will learn to ignore the laser if it is not followed by some consequence.
You need to "teach" them to associate the laser with "punishment."

For example, try shining the laser at them to scare them off. If they don't leave, fire off a couple rounds at them.
Repeat this until they get the point. Eventually, if these birds are smart enough (not sure how intelligent they are) they will learn to associate the laser with your rifle. At that point, all you need to do is shine the laser and they will (hopefully) take off for fear that the laser will be followed up with some bullets.

Either that, or remove whatever it is that is attracting them.
 
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And maybe after that, they will learn that if they associate themselves at all with the area in general, a consequence will follow. I am not a bird psychologist, however :p
 

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Thanks man,

They are verry smart and they learn quick, if its not realy hurting them a litle then the will ignore it after a wile, there has to be a reasonable thread.
We can call this cruel but shooting them all is pretty harsh even by my standards.


I saw some vids of a guy using his telescope to only pop a balloon and lets put it this way i realy done't have any illusion that i can burn them in two :D


That is the question he is asking us.

@Dutch
The laser may be able to scare off the birds. The lens you refer to won't make much of a difference, though.
The problem is, they will learn to ignore the laser if it is not followed by some consequence.
You need to "teach" them to associate the laser with "punishment."

For example, try shining the laser at them to scare them off. If they don't leave, fire off a couple rounds at them.
Repeat this until they get the point. Eventually, if these birds are smart enough (not sure how intelligent they are) they will learn to associate the laser with your rifle. At that point, all you need to do is shine the laser and they will (hopefully) take off for fear that the laser will be followed up with some bullets.

Either that, or remove whatever it is that is attracting them.
 
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