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Radim's Laserpainting Art, Complexity Philosophy and The Surreal World

Radim's Laserpainting Art, Complexity Philosophy and The Surreal World
"The darkness is my canvas..."

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Intro
Welcome to this Art & more thread,

Since it has been stickied and enjoyed here for a while already, it needs some better first post to make it more comfortable and user friendly IMO. Anyway, you can see the original first post below. This space is therefore reserved for more structure to be evolved. :beer: I'm not completely decided about exact form yet, maybe I'll use standard content, but likely kind of keywords, previews with hyperlink structure accross the entire thread. As mentioned it is to be evolved. ;)

And what will happen in this thread in the (near) future?
Hopefully a lot!


The Project A

The "A" stands for ART, the art of living, the art of science, the art of lasers... The art of The Surreal World we all live in.
The universe has split into new direction as the river flowing down from the mountains as stream bursting from the rock, through the forests, landscape, cities, catching other smaller rivers, streams and rain out of the air, flowing to the seas and oceans... Once, I was born, the world would not be the same anymore, once I found faith in the Surreal World of love, peace merging to friendship, I became the philosopher of the new age... Too many strong words, you say? Wait for it... Project A almost killed me many times, so I hope I've finally caught it in my hands and my fingers can shape it... With your help, I believe in the better world, in The Surreal World...

Let's see the list of some currently running subprojects:

  • The Hologram Question

    Short note: From here there have been many experiments done, there are amazing results, which surprised me a lot. I had to develop completely new scientific concepts to cover the explanation. I'm currently preparing an article to release some secrets of my Black Monkey King notebook...
  • Laserpainting Artworks

    "Unpublished sister artwork"
    I have a lot of them unpublished and I became fascinated by one older one - test shot better than final artwork and I'm about to publish it soon because I fell in love with it recently. Seriously I see it as the best of all for me now. Even I and my artistic feelings evolve and this trial was not appreciated by me and its later sister shot has been published here already (you may guess which one it is).

    Note: The artwork will be published as:

    The Shape Of The Surreal World
    ...the shape of the soul...


    You might look forward what is hidden there, what I've found and how awesome this hologram laserpainting is. I still have not explored this deep interference pattern and what it contains, but I've found the bottom - the resolution limit already (I observed computer imaging algorithm of QuickPic app).

    :drool:

    "Unseen artwork" - The Surreal World has taken it... I needed to pay for evolution... But I'm happy for this...
    Further there is still another unseen (therefore resting on SD card as from camera - observer) artwork (related to Project A) to be processed from RAW and published (hopefully it will be nice, as I liked it on camera preview last year in the forest). And yes - 532 nm | 1.4+ W | Optotronics RPL-II (link) has been used in this artwork. ;) This will be one of long awaited Beast review pics...


    Further...

    And many old and new ideas you could see in some Wazup posts earlier...
  • ...and more... - Plus some others not stated in the list linked... This list is not and cannot be comprehensive. ;)

I hope you will enjoy this thread further and all content here as well as the content coming...

Thanks for you being such an awesome community here, LPF has been my home and it will be even in the future.

R.



Safety

PLEASE DO NOT TRY LASERPAINTING UNLESS YOU ARE EXPERIENCED WITH LASERS, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT RISKS TO BE MANAGED.

I'm about to put here more safety information for others feeling they wish to try it. However you might find some safety precautions and procedures in my earlier posts. My safety protocol is still evolving and becoming more complex. I can handle very complicated compositions in safe way, but without this protocol, I would be blind now (at least) for sure. Feel free to be inspired, but it is your responsibility to be safe.



What is Laserpainting?

Have you heard about light painting? Camera on long exposure, darkness and painting with flashlights and various light sources? Google it. I do it with coherent monochromatic light (lasers) using various optics, wave behaviour of light, tricks, games with viewer's mind and perspective, etc. I do not have any limits in creativity and art I can do. There is always a way, just passion and idea is needed. Anyway I do not use any computer graphics (I tried in my child steps before I took courage to use proper digital camera with lasers), all artworks are real photos of single exposure, no layering in postprocess or something. I even do not use noise reduction in computer. I tend to capture reality, that's why. If you are curious, feel free to ask me for more.

Complexity Philosophy - This mysterious phrase refers to the new philosophy direction (as I became philosopher) I'm discovering and evolving. All artworks here as published so far were first steps leading to this and during my absence here I did a lot of meditation, thinking, discussions and from strict definitionry and logic approach and observation (not only of course) I'm building broader framework and finding my sense of life and how I see the world (my own philosophy keeping me happy in this crazy world). There were too much inconsistencies found in conventional approaches and I needed to find some form of unity. It took me several years to come up with it in current form, many years of studies and my whole life journey led there (as I was always curious). Here it is and I'm about to present it bit by bit together with laserpainting artworks here instead of writing books. This should also express deep meaning of the artworks. And one more thing - I tried to implement it in practical way to my life and even further - and I was surprised it actually worked beyond my (sceptic) expectations, so no need to keep this secret, even it sounds crazy now as written here. Yeah, I refuse to be normal. :crackup:

Yeah, and thank you all a lot for your attention, support, discussions and for being such an awesome and inspirting community here... I see we go for better world what we do here...


Thread content

>>> This section is to be evolved. <<<



Philosopher's Table 4
For Peace and Love.

More coming soon...


From Philosopher's Diary for LPF:




... For more click here ...

Let's play a thinking game now... :tinfoil: :san:


Safety Warning: Never ask philosopher about the time, he has answered you yesterday.



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Old 02-11-2017, 10:40 AM


Hi fellow laserists,

I have received a very nice feedback with many, many reps from you (thanks again) in Enchanted Beams Thread (recommended to subscribe) with requests for more of my artwork to be shared. Maybe it's time to make a thread for this stuff to keep it at one place.

I'll put here the pics for your enjoyment. And when I experience something special during my night rides and walks in the forest with lasers and camera, I'll share the story together with photo posted as well.
I'll be happy for your feedback, opinions, feelings, comments, tips, critics etc. Follow up discusion is very warm welcomed.

Enjoy...


To begin with - my latest shot:




When laser touches a tree its soul becomes visible

(real photo, no computer graphics, just laserpainting & a bit of moonlight, for higher resolution click the image)




And here is the first artwork ever I'm proud of (shared in above mentioned thread already, I just wish to have it here as well):


If you have asked me why I love 589 nm laser, I would have answered because it's DPSS, because it's unique pure golden light, because...





The Laser Sun

It's a day at night in the forest. The sun is shining on the sky – is it real or is it not? What is real? What is dream? The souls of the trees, the souls of the light? The esence of reality is surreal… Many words all spoken by single picture…

(for higher resolution click on the photo)



About

Yes, it‘s a real photo, no computer graphics, just pure laser painting of my style. Four high powered lasers were used for this photo including starring 589 nm "Yellowie" with 2X beam expander optics.
Warning: Proper eye safety wear and strictly following laser safety protocol are absolutely necessary during composition setup and exposure of photos like this one.




Behind the scene (this story is written exclusively for LPF :D )

It was a bit sad that evening at the beginning, I've had clear idea about the photo and everything. I supposed to used 532 nm 800+ mW (I call him "The First"). I was getting everythig ready, unlocked and tried to switch him on. No emission... Ok, let's change the batts. Nothing. Another pair. Nope. Again. Damn it. It was dead. Bad for start and it made me very sad. But why to return home, when I have four other lasers with me? I prepared the scene, found the right place for camera, composition, alignment of 589 nm (I still do not have these little tripods - so I use various objects to put it on - the harder way :D), composition adjustment and... First trial.

...

During the exposure in normally calm and quiet forest I heard him nearby... To me well known alfa male deer. For those who read my intro - he has not been shot yet as I meet him from time to time, when riding my mountain bike and even once during laser painting. Well, he was not that far from me to make me feel comfortable as I have had all lasers, optics, camera tripod and all necesary accessories out of backpack and it takes a lot of time to get everything packed and fitted inside... Usually I'm very confident being in forest at night, but based on my prior experience I'm always a bit nervous with this beast.


Well, the exposure was done and camera was taking its time to process the photo. I was preparing for next shot and he was still there making his typical noises towards me. I saw his bright red eyes reflected from my head 1 700 lumen flashlight. It was him, I recognize him only by his voice, but I even barely saw him. In addition he is the only one not scared when I do some loud counter noise at him like clamp, shout etc... This confirmed me he is my well known "friend" I met in the last summer first time... And he was slowly approaching...


"Click!"
Photo processed. Checked: "Ok, I need to adjust the scene to get what I came for." Deer is still shouting at me. Me, just for sure, keeping some laser handy. Adjust yellow laser, composition, yellow laser composition... A lot of walking. Still deer noises of anger... Still coming closer and being more and more loud... I shot a flash of laser in the area where he was to keep him far (not hitting him of course - I could see where he was, just flash of bright light of laser light nearby would be sufficiend to keep him away, I was hoping). Anyway, I was quickly ready with scene as I got some little experience already and it was the time for a second shot. Last check of composition and camera settings. Mobile phone with DSLR IR Remote app ready and here we go: Illuminate focus area, tap, focus - ok and light off before exposure starts. Now it was time to be creative... The deer still there and me walking in darkness in not really easy terrain illuminated just by 589 nm beam with laser in hand and laser glasses, laserpainting the forest.


It took five minutes and 2 seconds. After exposure I told myself this one has to be OK as the deer was becoming very annoying. I'm really affraid the moment, when he will not be scared by laser anymore - I do not have that heart to hit him directly, but what if? How would I defense myself? I have had just bare hands, lasers and sccissors in backpack. Not that huge antlers as him to stand as equal to equal in case of entering unitntended fight. So it was time to leave. However no attack occured, but I was exhausted from still paying attention to everything - exposure time, laser light emitted on objects, laser safety, the deer, not hitting the camera accidentaly, not slip or injure myself, not crossing the 589 nm beam with any part of my body and to be fully creative... I secured the lasers and was packing everything to leave when the camera proccessed the picture finally - quick check: "Wow, this is it!"

During my excitement from the photo the deer was probably bored of me and dissappeared. I did not even noticed him leaving as I forgot to pay attention to him. Anyway i knew, that other photos taken that evening would be just additional, so I got on my bike and followed the snowy and icy path through the forest back. I was happy with the shot stored at my SD card and the last mission was to get home safely...


And back home, after the lasers were stabilised with temperatures to prevent condensing of moisture and thermal shock. I took a look at the dead 532 nm. I put the batteries in (all were fully charged of course and I even measured the voltage), pointed the laser out of the window to infinity and - nice green beam slices the sky in full power again! Oh, amazing! That evening I was very happy! The laser is still alive, I took the photo above and I survived another encounter with the beast...

Thanks for reading and sorry for a bit longer post, ArcticDude, but this picture has a longer story to share. :)


Note: I really need to get something better than these Trustfire's 16340 (they were cheap and the best available to me at the moment when I got them). I realized that maybe they were too cold to deliver required current - in deed they delivered 0 or near mA as even the standby/emission indicator was not working - just at the beginning.



Even the first version of the quoted photo is nice, slightly different perspective and lighting... I might share it later. :)
 
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Great new thread, looking forward to more of your unique laser painting, keep up the good work!
:kewlpics: +rep!
 
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Thanks Radim. These are wonderful. Do you pulse the beams, how long do you leave them on?

Thank you. Usually I do not pulse them, but on this picture I just half pushed the on button (532 nm dots). How long it depends on distance of object (its color and shape as well, but mainly the distance) and camera settings, these vere about half second to one second - I estimate.

Great new thread, looking forward to more of your unique laser painting, keep up the good work!
:kewlpics: +rep!

Thank you very much. More will come when I take more shots. :)


This is cool, how nice of a camera do I need, how long of an exposure?

Thanks.

I have DSLR Sony Nex 7 with 18 - 55 mm lens, it is not optimal what I would imagine, but it was given to me 4-5 years ago.

Exposure time depends on many factors - here I have a lot of light polution from sodium lamps in city, which is not far enough to have clear sky (in human eye you barely notice it, but in shots it is visible). So the lighting is very important. In opening pic of this thread there was a full moon involved, so I kept the exposure longer as moonlight took over the sodium light (well you can photoshop this, but this is not my style, I like to capture "reality"). Also the settings of camera is a factor, but you can set it up for current light conditions, desired pic composition and you need to find some solution for this problem as at some level you get to fine adjustments, where if you adjust something to get better shot in one way, you got worse shot in the other way - so experience is needed. Anyway if you use RAW, what you see on camera display is not very relevant, just for estimate if exposure was good or not (if enough light was collected, focus, painted areas etc...).

The opening shot exposure was 10 minutes and 34 seconds.

Every pic takes a lot of steps and things to keep on mind because you need to get desired picture, you do not want to hit with laser somebody or something unintended and you operate in darkness in terrain which you have to remember when you move around the scene to paint it.

So I still learn to get it done correctly to be satisfied with my artwork. On every pic I take, I see some errors and things I would do differently when I look on them later. But these are part of learning process.
 
Here are the latest artworks. I got inspired also here on LPF by a Brucemir's art (here for example) and I incorporated a new optical element into my collection.
Enjoy...





The trees gathered to shoot their star in the sky


(no computer graphics, real photography, just laserpainting, for higher resolution click the image)






The Eye of the Forest

Have you ever wonder how forest sees itself?

(no computer graphics, real photography, just laserpainting, for higher resolution click the image)

Inspired by recent long philosophic talk walk in the forest with my friend I met after looong time, I had to got the sphere into my photography. It is a link to Plato's cave allegory through my eyes. Here the viewer is positioned partially into philosopher's point of view. According to my opinion everybody who asks, is a philosopher. However the esence of the sphere is much more deeper then described in this caption. I might uncover some layers later to approach a little bit more to complete understanding for those who stay tuned. Also a viewer might notice a laser grain (how I personally call it) in the details. It is not any defect of the photo itself, it is a property and beauty of coherent light of lasers. The sense of laser grain in my artwork is its direct link to the fascinating world of quantum mechanics present in our everyday life usually unnoticed. Another interesting effect making the image in sphere so abstract is separation of precise laser wavelenghts - colors - due to different refraction indices for different wavelengths in glass. The viewer might notice it as color separated images of trees in the sphere. The sense of this in my artwork is that although true "real" world is united, it might seem separated to us in some ways (like Einstein's general relativity theory and quantum mechanics for example).




And exclusively extra pic only for LPF - when experimenting with the sphere I noticed this effect:

11753-just-interesting-example-fluorescence-405-nm.jpg


It is a deep zoom in one of my test shots (so sorry for a poor quality). Look at the 405 nm laser paths. On the left you can notice a little rainbow! My 405 nm dildo is a true rainbow laser! Oh, not really - it is as monochromatic as lasers are. It's just a huge fluorescence of high energy 405 nm photons on wood. The sphere separated it from much brighter 405 nm laser light due to different refraction indices of glass for different wavelengths and brought it into rainbow. Note that energy of fluorescent light (which is not coherent laser light) is much lower and lays deeper bellow 405 nm and also there is a slight gap in the spectre missing part of blue - energy issue. I really love this effect. If I'm mistaken in some part of my explanation, let me know - I'm here on LPF to learn more as well. :)
 
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Hey Radim,
Very nice pics! I like the first one the best. It almost looks like looking into the vortex of a laser projector, which I actually have been doing a lot recently.
And I see your use of a glass sphere in the second one. What size sphere is to get some perspective.
 
Hey Radim,
Very nice pics! I like the first one the best. It almost looks like looking into the vortex of a laser projector, which I actually have been doing a lot recently.
And I see your use of a glass sphere in the second one. What size sphere is to get some perspective.

Thanks a lot, Brucemir. And thanks for inspiration as well.

I've found a local store which produces spheres from optical glass - not only for technical and decorative purposes but also for predicting the future. :) They have many sizes. The criteria for my selection were (ordered by importance):

1) Quality (higher = better)
2) Size (larger = better)
3) Weight (as I need to take it into my backpack together with camera, lasers and other stuff)
4) Price

So, there were 200 mm, 150 mm and 130 mm diameters in my mind and reasonable price range, but as 150 mm weights about 4.5 kg and 200 mm 10.5 kg it was clear to get the 150 mm.

Even this is quite heavy if you consider everything I take with me - I just feel it after a night in the forest. I usually ride full suspension bike to get there and find a scene, but in heavier terrain it is significant additional load on my back. I cannot imagine 10.5 kg sphere - but maybe next time I get it for some indoor shots or just to have it as the sphere is so amazing just by itself. :)
 
I have a 200mm. There is no way I would take it out of my house. When I use it on my table I have to put wood underneath it for support
 
I have a 200mm. There is no way I would take it out of my house. When I use it on my table I have to put wood underneath it for support

I got two stands for my sphere from the manufactures - one is from wood and the second from glass. It is a must have as if this has fallen it makes a crater in the floor. :D

Radim--- great images--very different ---excellent art works!

Thank you very much, Encap.
Yes, they have to be different as I'm learning how to express myself and put my soul into the artwork. This seems to be the best way as I can capture the sense of my thoughts in the artwork and comment them in the caption for a viewer to show him/her my view of this abstract, however even without reading caption the viewer perceives it his/her own way. This is what I usually do when I go to exhibitions of abstract and contemporary art - enjoying all the emotions and thoughts from the particular artwork and then I read caption and see the artwork again and think about it in two stages - my perception and author's percepiton. This is why I love this kind of art.


EDIT: to all it is applicable - thank you guys for many reps and support. I very appreciate it and it motivates me to get more photos. :)
 
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I have the wood stands for my three biggest spheres but only use them to store the spheres when not in use. If I used wood stands in my photography, they would be visible in the spheres and ruin the picture. I use only glass stands in mine. I have not had any accidents with them and I am very careful with them
 
I have the wood stands for my three biggest spheres but only use them to store the spheres when not in use. If I used wood stands in my photography, they would be visible in the spheres and ruin the picture. I use only glass stands in mine. I have not had any accidents with them and I am very careful with them

I completely agree. I use them exactly like you. However, if I find three nice fixed points in the nature, why not to use them instead? :)
 




Tree Beauty

Every tree is unique, every tree has its own soul.

Real photo, no computer graphics, just laserpainting. For higher resolution click the image.


Warning: Laser safety has to be strictly followed for photo like this one. Do not try it without knowing what you are doing.
 
Nice work. Also, I've never seen someones score rise so high in such a short amount of time.
 
Yes itsn't it something how many members who have been on LPF a year or less have more rep points than members that have been on for years. It used to be ultra rare for anyone to have more reps than posts. Not anymore! SO my question is how does this happen. I used to be happy to get reps and build it up. Now it is a complete joke. I see some members with ZERO substance getting rep,points at a pace unheard of. This has nothing to do with Radims fine work, but something is not right. How do people get so man rep points so quickly? If anyone ever looks at any of my stuff, please do not rep me as it is now a meaningless stat and I will not return the rep. .Sorry to rant on your thread Radim, but something is not right
 
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